From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 1 05:12:35 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id FAA22918 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 05:12:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Dale Huguley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Earthquakes - quakeAPRS operational Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:11:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002001bf836e$e8cf3c80$b0984d0c@dale-s-home> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi All- Tsunami warnings are supposedly on the EMWIN feed, but they happen so rarely I cannot find an example to use for testing the parser to see what it does with it. 73 de kg5qd Dale >-----Original Message----- >From: Wayne H. Sanderson >Realtime Tsunami warnings after coastal or undersea quakes might be useful. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 1 21:09:49 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA22598 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:09:49 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: rparry@jittlov.qualcomm.com Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 19:09:23 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Richard Parry Subject: [htaprs] quakeAPRS operational, slight changes made Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_359308703==_.ALT" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000301185701.00e76100@jittlov.qualcomm.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk --=====================_359308703==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The new version of quakeAPRS has running a few days now. At 30 minute intervals it supplies to APRServe all earthquakes greater than magnitude 3 on the Richter scale that have occurred within the past 24 hours. This results in about 10 objects each day. To see the earthquakes, you need to look at a WORLD map on WinAPRS, MacAPRS, APRS+SA, etc. since most of the earthquake activity is outside the US, although California is the exception. The label has been changed slightly from the original version as indicated below. Brent Hildebrand and myself felt this would be an informative format that would meet the 9 character limitation. ddhhmmqMM format where: dd = day of quake hh = hour of quake mm = minute of quake q = delimiter MM = quake magnitude without the decimal point Here is an example APRS quake packet: W9IF>APRS:;291855q35*291855z3604.80N\11736.00WQMag 3.5 Depth 0.6 km CALIF If there are questions, comments, or suggestions please email me directly. thanks, Rich Parry, W9IF --=====================_359308703==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" The new version of quakeAPRS has running a few days now. At 30 minute intervals it supplies to APRServe all earthquakes greater than magnitude 3 on the Richter scale that have occurred within the past 24 hours. This results in about 10 objects each day. To see the earthquakes, you need to look at a WORLD map on WinAPRS, MacAPRS, APRS+SA, etc. since most of the earthquake activity is outside the US, although California is the exception.

The label has been changed slightly from the original version as indicated below. Brent Hildebrand and myself felt this would be an informative format that would meet the 9 character limitation.
ddhhmmqMM format where:
dd = day of quake
hh = hour of quake
mm = minute of quake
q = delimiter
MM = quake magnitude without the decimal point
Here is an example APRS quake packet:
W9IF>APRS:;291855q35*291855z3604.80N\11736.00WQMag 3.5 Depth 0.6 km CALIF

If there are questions, comments, or suggestions please email me directly.

thanks,
Rich Parry, W9IF --=====================_359308703==_.ALT-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 1 23:27:50 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA26894 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:27:48 -0600 (CST) From: ww0e@juno.com To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:17:55 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] SMA/BNC adapter Message-ID: X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <20000301.232427.9678.3.ww0e@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Who stocks the SMA / BNC adapter (for the THD7) ? Thanks. Jerry - WW0E - ww0e@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 2 04:35:18 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id EAA21057 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:35:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Mike Cox" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA/BNC adapter Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:25:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <015001bf8431$92eaf980$f5630418@okcds1.ok.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Associated Radio in Overland Park, Ks does. I bought two of them there last year when I purchased my TH-D7. 73 Mike KI5DF > Who stocks the SMA / BNC adapter (for the THD7) ? > Thanks. > Jerry - WW0E - ww0e@juno.com > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 2 05:07:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id FAA21777 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 05:07:14 -0600 (CST) From: RASNM@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:06:52 EST Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA/BNC adapter To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: htaprs@lists.tapr.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <9a.1bba471.25efa54c@aol.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk AES........ I got one from them last year. Amateur Electronic Supply 73- ron- kd5hty --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 2 08:29:26 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA26398 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:29:24 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:27:41 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] APRS at the Scout Jamboree. In-Reply-To: <000e01bf83fe$685fbda0$3915fed1@stumpf> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Not too early to think about APRS at the Jamboree this summer. A few years ago I made detail trail maps of the entire Fort A.P.Hill area for the Jamboree (they are included in the APRSdos Emapsxx.zip distribution). If any APRS users here on the SIG are into scouting and will be participating in the Jamboree, plese consider joining the scout-radio SIG at scoutradio@onelist.com Other topics are JOTA and FRS radios in support of scouting. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 2 09:53:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA29125 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:53:38 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: boofura.swcp.com: n5zgt owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:47:37 -0700 (MST) From: Brian Mileshosky To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] APRS at the Scout Jamboree. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi Bob, FYI, the National Jamboree takes place not this summer, but in 2001. For all the Scouters out there, the big event for this summer is the National Order of the Arrow Conference in Knoxville, Tennessee. But as you said, it isn't too early to plan for the Jambo! I'll be staffing K2BSA most likely (awaiting word from National), so it'll be a great chance to promote Amateur Radio to the Scouting community and meet lots of people interested in our hobby. If you haven't made plans for the Jamboree yet, better hurry! It is an excellent experience you'll remember for a lifetime. And Amateur Radio will most certainly be a part of that experience. In Scouting, Brian, N5ZGT Albuquerque, NM Order of the Arrow Section W5A Secretary http://www.unm.edu/~brianm On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Bob Bruninga wrote: > Not too early to think about APRS at the Jamboree this summer. A few > years ago I made detail trail maps of the entire Fort A.P.Hill area for > the Jamboree (they are included in the APRSdos Emapsxx.zip distribution). > > If any APRS users here on the SIG are into scouting and will be > participating in the Jamboree, plese consider joining the scout-radio SIG > at scoutradio@onelist.com > > Other topics are JOTA and FRS radios in support of scouting. > > de WB4APR, Bob > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to aprssig as: n5zgt@swcp.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprssig-11733V@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 2 12:09:13 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA04054 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:09:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "ELLIOTT, BRUCE" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] APRS at the Scout Jamboree. Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:02:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I understand that the K2BSA repeater in Dallas now has ATV capabilities. Will these be used? Bruce Elliott KC5KYJ -----Original Message----- From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 9:48 AM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group; htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] APRS at the Scout Jamboree. Hi Bob, FYI, the National Jamboree takes place not this summer, but in 2001. For all the Scouters out there, the big event for this summer is the National Order of the Arrow Conference in Knoxville, Tennessee. But as you said, it isn't too early to plan for the Jambo! I'll be staffing K2BSA most likely (awaiting word from National), so it'll be a great chance to promote Amateur Radio to the Scouting community and meet lots of people interested in our hobby. If you haven't made plans for the Jamboree yet, better hurry! It is an excellent experience you'll remember for a lifetime. And Amateur Radio will most certainly be a part of that experience. In Scouting, Brian, N5ZGT Albuquerque, NM Order of the Arrow Section W5A Secretary http://www.unm.edu/~brianm On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Bob Bruninga wrote: > Not too early to think about APRS at the Jamboree this summer. A few > years ago I made detail trail maps of the entire Fort A.P.Hill area for > the Jamboree (they are included in the APRSdos Emapsxx.zip distribution). > > If any APRS users here on the SIG are into scouting and will be > participating in the Jamboree, plese consider joining the scout-radio SIG > at scoutradio@onelist.com > > Other topics are JOTA and FRS radios in support of scouting. > > de WB4APR, Bob > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to aprssig as: n5zgt@swcp.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprssig-11733V@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: bruce.elliott@tccd.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 2 12:45:16 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA05119 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:45:09 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: boofura.swcp.com: n5zgt owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:44:22 -0700 (MST) From: Brian Mileshosky To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS , TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] APRS at the Scout Jamboree. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Pardon the posts to the two mailing lists...there has been a 2 meter repeater there at the Jamboree, but it has been only voice. In 1997 there was a voice net every evening. As for ATV, I can't answer that because the repeater set up at Fort AP Hill, Virginia is temporary. So I don't know what kind of capabilities it will have this year as of yet. Since the Jambo is so huge (30,000-40,000 Scouts and Scouters from all over the US and the world), I'm sure K2BSA will have many demonstrations of the different Amateur modes available. So ATV will most likely be there one way or another. And let me mention that the National Jamboree takes place every 4 years...a couple people were wondering about that. :-) Looking forward to a great time with Amateur Radio and Scouting! 73, Brian, N5ZGT http://www.unm.edu/~brianm On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, ELLIOTT, BRUCE wrote: > I understand that the K2BSA repeater in Dallas now has ATV capabilities. > Will these be used? > Bruce Elliott > KC5KYJ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 9:48 AM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group; htaprs@lists.tapr.org > Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] APRS at the Scout Jamboree. > > > Hi Bob, > FYI, the National Jamboree takes place not this summer, but in > 2001. For all the Scouters out there, the big event for this summer is > the National Order of the Arrow Conference in Knoxville, Tennessee. > But as you said, it isn't too early to plan for the Jambo! I'll be > staffing K2BSA most likely (awaiting word from National), so it'll be a > great chance to promote Amateur Radio to the Scouting community and meet > lots of people interested in our hobby. > If you haven't made plans for the Jamboree yet, better hurry! It > is an excellent experience you'll remember for a lifetime. And Amateur > Radio will most certainly be a part of that experience. > > In Scouting, > Brian, N5ZGT > Albuquerque, NM > Order of the Arrow Section W5A Secretary > http://www.unm.edu/~brianm > > On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Bob Bruninga wrote: > > > Not too early to think about APRS at the Jamboree this summer. A few > > years ago I made detail trail maps of the entire Fort A.P.Hill area for > > the Jamboree (they are included in the APRSdos Emapsxx.zip distribution). > > > > If any APRS users here on the SIG are into scouting and will be > > participating in the Jamboree, plese consider joining the scout-radio SIG > > at scoutradio@onelist.com > > > > Other topics are JOTA and FRS radios in support of scouting. > > > > de WB4APR, Bob > > > > > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to aprssig as: n5zgt@swcp.com > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprssig-11733V@lists.tapr.org > > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: bruce.elliott@tccd.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 3 13:55:49 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA12722 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:55:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:55:25 Subject: [htaprs] Pin Outs To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Darren Smith" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I have a Kenwood TH-7D radio and the Rand McNally GPS. What I need is the pin puts of the GPS reciever. Does anyone have them???? Thanks 73 KD7HRP Darren --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 4 05:37:09 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id FAA26408 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 05:37:08 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Keith Maton" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] TM-D700 question Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 11:36:27 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I took delivery of a TM-D700E last weekend, but the VS-3 voice synth arrived a week later. I've spent a lot of time programming the radio. Does installing the VS-3 cause a reset to happen? Thanks. 73 Keith G6NHU --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 4 06:08:53 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA26968 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 06:08:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Mark A. Foley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700 question Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 07:07:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000c01bf85d2$449e13a0$02000003@u1q9b2> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk No it doesn't..you just have to set the voice options.... Mark, NA4V -----Original Message----- From: Keith Maton To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Date: Saturday, March 04, 2000 6:36 AM Subject: [htaprs] TM-D700 question >I took delivery of a TM-D700E last weekend, but the VS-3 voice synth arrived >a week later. > >I've spent a lot of time programming the radio. Does installing the VS-3 >cause a reset to happen? > >Thanks. > >73 >Keith >G6NHU > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: na4v@hom.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 4 06:19:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA27189 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 06:19:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Mike Cox" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700 question Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 06:11:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <013401bf85d2$b86c60c0$f5630418@okcds1.ok.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Keith Maton said: > I took delivery of a TM-D700E last weekend, but the VS-3 voice synth arrived > a week later. > > I've spent a lot of time programming the radio. Does installing the VS-3 > cause a reset to happen? > Keith, I'm not sure if it will reset the radio or not. Kenwood does have the programing software on their web site. You could set it up and "read" the radio to save your settings then install the VS-3. Then you could reprogram the radio easily if needed. Just a thought. Good luck, 73 Mike KI5DF --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 4 08:17:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA29597 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 08:17:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Hazen, Dwight L" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700 question Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 09:16:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64035566F3@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Mike, I installed the VS-3 last week also. The radio did not require a reset but I have it backed up by the Kenwood software just in case! Dwight -----Original Message----- From: Mike Cox [mailto:ki5df@home.com] Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 7:11 AM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700 question Keith Maton said: > I took delivery of a TM-D700E last weekend, but the VS-3 voice synth arrived > a week later. > > I've spent a lot of time programming the radio. Does installing the VS-3 > cause a reset to happen? > Keith, I'm not sure if it will reset the radio or not. Kenwood does have the programing software on their web site. You could set it up and "read" the radio to save your settings then install the VS-3. Then you could reprogram the radio easily if needed. Just a thought. Good luck, 73 Mike KI5DF --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: hazen@indiana.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 4 13:09:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA08305 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 13:09:38 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Keith Maton" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: TM-D700 question Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 19:09:02 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <000c01bf85d2$449e13a0$02000003@u1q9b2> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thanks Mark, and all the others - It's all in and working nicely. 73 Keith > > No it doesn't..you just have to set the voice options.... > Mark, NA4V > -----Original Message----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 4 13:44:07 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA09237 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 13:44:05 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: davev@pop.enteract.com Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 13:43:30 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David Vrona Subject: [htaprs] D-700 mini DIN pin out????? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000304134059.00b5c870@pop.enteract.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Does anybody know the pin out for ALL 6 pins on the D-700 mini DIN connector. The diagram on page 35 of the manual doesn't help enough. Shouldn't one of those pins provide power? I'm trying to pull off 5 volts to supply that small Pharos GPS (www.pharosgps.com) that I posted about a few days ago. thanks, dave -- Join our SETI@home team at www.wuies.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 4 19:50:07 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA21462 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 19:50:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 20:48:31 -0500 From: "Edward A. Behl" Reply-To: ed@eabehl.com Organization: E A BEHL Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: D-700 mini DIN pin out????? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38C1BCEF.77A7@eabehl.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk David - The pin-out of the 6-pin mini DIN connector used for the TNC interface on Kenwood and other "packet ready" FM rigs is based on an ISO standard. Pin 1 - Tx Audio Pin 2 - Signal Ground Pin 3 - PTT Pin 4 - 9600 baud Rx Audio Pin 5 - 1200 baud Rx Audio Pin 6 - Squelch Control Out Power is not available from any pin per se; however, you may be able to "steal" a small amount of power from the Squelch line, which is a TTL level output which indicates when the squelch has been opened by a detected RF signal. Check the links below for details: http://freeweb.pdq.net/medcalf/ztx/wire/6minidin.html http://www.packetradio.org/trad/yft8000r.gif http://www.sedan.org/0imgs/5060.jpg Good luck & 73! -- Edward A. Behl - KG4ALG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 5 04:26:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id EAA22542 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 04:26:43 -0600 (CST) X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: Reply-To: "Karl G6ODT" From: "Karl G6ODT" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Wideband RX on D700 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 10:21:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001801bf868c$b2f35c60$65937ed4@amd450> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi , Does anybody know why the wideband rx is disabled in the non US/Canada versions of the TM-D700 ? 73 Karl G6ODT g6odt@yahoo.com http://members.tripod.com/~g6odt/packet.html http://backdoor.to/g6odt 24hr Digi 144.800 Relay,Wide,Irth,G6ODT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 5 04:26:57 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id EAA22561 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 04:26:56 -0600 (CST) X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: Reply-To: "Karl G6ODT" From: "Karl G6ODT" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Remote messaging with D700 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 10:21:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001701bf868c$b1acd2a0$65937ed4@amd450> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I wonder if anybody has played with sending and retrieving messages from the TM-D700 ? I can send messages using the D7 command AMSG but I also need to capture incomming messages and delete them from the memory. Also how to youget the radio to report back which band has PTT. Also how does the command PC work with the 700 ? With band A on High power if I send PC 0 it reports PC0,1 but with band B set to Meduim or Low power sending PC 1 reports PC1,1 . With the D7 the 2nd figure indicates the power setting. (0-High 1-error 2-Low ,3-EL). I have part of the form in my program that looks like the display so that's why I'm trying to find the power and PTT settings so I can get the labels to change on screen. Many thanks for your assistance. 73 Karl G6ODT g6odt@yahoo.com http://members.tripod.com/~g6odt/packet.html http://backdoor.to/g6odt 24hr Digi 144.800 Relay,Wide,Irth,G6ODT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 5 05:30:11 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id FAA23606 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 05:30:10 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Keith Maton" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "Karl G6ODT" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Wideband RX on D700 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 11:29:07 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk No, but it's easy enough to expand the TM-D700E Take the bottom cover off. Snip the green wire. Sorted. And don't forget that this will reset the wireless. 73 Keith, G6NHU -- > Hi , > > Does anybody know why the wideband rx is disabled in > the non US/Canada versions of the TM-D700 ? > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 5 07:21:19 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA25860 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 07:21:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "hasan schiers" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 07:19:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <009f01bf86a5$9cef0860$0300000a@netins.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I'm a VERY happy new owner of the D700. I'll write up some comments later, but suffice it to say, "WOW"! The only feature I cannot seem to get to work the way I expect it to is the automatic transfer of stations from the D700 to my Garmin II+ as waypoints. 1. I'm running a Palm IIIx. 2. D700 is in TNC Packet mode 3. The waypoint is turned on to NMEA 9 in D700 menu. 4. I have a 3 wire connect using the supplied cable (D700) to my Garmin. Everything else works perfectly with the Palm IIIx and pocketAPRS. What a dream mobile station! I get a nice smooth gps track on the maps, I see the gps data coming in on the monitor screen of the Palm. My position reports go out just fine....everything is just ducky. Perhaps in TNC Packet mode the data is not output to the gps? Or have I missed some parameter? From the way I read the manual, it seems to me that when I receive a valid position from any station on the d700, that data is supposed to be translated to the proper nmea format and read by the Garmin gps II+ (2.07 firmware), and displayed on the map screen with 9 characters as a waypoint. (I don't really have a "map" on the II+, just a tracking screen. Maybe that is the problem, it won't even show relative position...but I did expect it to do so. This is a "curiousity, not important at all. I would never use the II+ for any practical map tracking...it's just that the "feature" looks like it's supposed to be there, and it doesn't seem to work. Tnx 73 hasan schiers schiers@netins.net N0AN hasan schiers schiers@netins.net N0AN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 5 10:28:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA00969 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 10:28:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Ben & Merridy Lindner" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Diamond Antenna Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 02:58:45 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-SMTP-HELO: default X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: vk5neb@seol.net.au X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: htaprs@lists.tapr.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: ppp04.seol.net.au [203.23.53.68] X-Info: South East On Line List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000b01bf86bf$e29738a0$443517cb@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi All Has anyone one used the Diamond SRH519 antenna on their THD7A? if so, what length is the antenna and what sort of performance do you get compared to the original . Any info greatly appreciated. Cheers all Ben VK5JFK, Mt Gambier, Sth Australia vk5neb@seol.net.au ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email server is running an evaluation copy of the MailShield anti- spam software. Please contact your email administrator if you have any questions about this message. MailShield product info: www.mailshield.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 5 10:34:23 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA01193 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 10:34:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Myrt Webb" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7 Accessories Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 09:33:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000b01bf86c0$9b92df80$cc7aa8d0@myrtwebb> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Just received my new TH-D7- pretty neat. But the factory antenna is a dog. Anybody know of a source for accessories for the TH-D7? Looked at the HRO catalog but I did not see much. Myrt in MT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 5 12:04:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA03549 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 12:04:01 -0600 (CST) From: "Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: TH-D7 Accessories Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 10:02:36 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000301bf86cc$fd9df0a0$02000003@oemcomputer> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have been reading about the TH-D7A factory antenna as being a dog. That certainly is not the case with mine. I have two of these radios and I am very pleased with the factory rubber duck antenna. It certainly works a lot better than my old HT which was an ICOM W21AT. I also like the flexibility of the antenna. One comment I can make on this antenna and the SMA connector is that I went skiing last weekend and had the radio in my jacket inside pocket and the antenna almost fell off. Apparently the constant up and down motion unscrewed the antenna and when I reached into my pocket to pull the radio out, the antenna came off. So, just a word of caution for the active outdoors users of this radio. I am completely satisfied with this radio and highly recommend it. Am still waiting for an HT like the TH-D7A with a built in GPS like the Garmin III+ with maps. Boy, wouldn't that be neat for a small tracker. It would also be neat if this radio could be used as a portable digi on a mountain top. Just dreaming........ Herb, KB7UVC NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator www.nwaprs.org My Home Page: http://www.hctc.com/~gerhardt/ > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-htaprs-9461@lists.tapr.org > [mailto:bounce-htaprs-9461@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Myrt Webb > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 8:34 AM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7 Accessories > > > Just received my new TH-D7- pretty neat. > > But the factory antenna is a dog. Anybody know of a source for accessories > for the TH-D7? > > Looked at the HRO catalog but I did not see much. > > Myrt in MT > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: gerhardt@hctc.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 5 14:14:00 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA08912 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 14:13:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 12:03:33 -0800 Reply-To: carndt@slonet.org From: "Chris Arndt" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7 Accessories List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <200003051203330320.05E47634@smtp.in-con.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I've got a couple of aftermarket antennas I've been using. I was pretty happy with the stubby Maldol Active Hunters we run on our FT 51Rs, so I have a similar Comet MH-209SMA that's almost identical, but with an SMA connector. It's about the same in performance as the stock stick, at half the length, and more flexible. It works OK for me around town. I have another one, also. It took me a while to find it the first time, and it took me a while to find it again today. (Manufacturers should really figure out how to label their HT antennas. Maldol did it to the Active Hunter, but Comet didn't label either of these antennas.) It's a Comet SMA24. It looks similar to a Diamond RH77CA, but 2" longer (17") and about half the diameter, with an SMA connector on it. The whip is the diameter of a pencil lead and pretty flexible (I can coil it into a 2.5" diameter circle to stick in my fanny pack). From the slightly thicker 4" section at the bottom, it might be a collinear design. Go to the AES site and look for these on the Comet page. http://www.aesham.com/cmt.shtml and ctrl-F (Find) for SMA. MAHA makes some rechargeable battery packs for the D7A. They have a 9.6 volt NiMH with the same AH as the stock NiCd pack, so you can get higher Tx power with the same battery life, and it charges OK on the Kenwood chargers. I have the Kenwood AA case, too. It only holds 4 cells and the Tx output is kinda wimpy. BTW, the D7A, my GPS III+, cables, spare antennas and batteries, lighter plug etc. fit pretty well in one of those Rat Shack "communications" fanny packs with the radio pocket on the outside. Hope this helps. 73, Chris KD6DSI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/5/00, at 8:35 AM, Myrt Webb wrote: >Just received my new TH-D7- pretty neat. > >But the factory antenna is a dog. Anybody know of a source for accessories >for the TH-D7? > >Looked at the HRO catalog but I did not see much. > >Myrt in MT > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: carndt@slonet.org >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 5 16:56:24 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA14306 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:56:22 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: tomb@t.pop.kiva.net Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 18:00:49 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Tom Busch Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7 Accessories In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000305175617.0095e900@t.pop.kiva.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I'm using the Comet SMA-503. Got it from R&L in Cincinnati, http://www.randl.com/. It performs much better than the factory HT, but it also picks up birdies from my old GPS while it is trying to acquire too. Poo! (the VHF AIP seems to help this.) The one disconcerting thing about it is that it is much slimmer than the original, and will tend to deform if you put too much of a kink into it. (Like when you put a jacket on over it while wearing the HT.) It can be bent back, and I don't think I've hurt its performance any. I'm just afraid one day it'll come apart. TomB At 09:33 AM 3/5/00 -0700, Myrt Webb wrote: >Just received my new TH-D7- pretty neat. > >But the factory antenna is a dog. Anybody know of a source for accessories >for the TH-D7? > >Looked at the HRO catalog but I did not see much. > >Myrt in MT > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tomb@kiva.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 5 19:13:18 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA18641 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 19:13:18 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: rasdpaul@pop.rasdoc.com Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 18:53:35 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Paul Breed Subject: [htaprs] More on the Small GPS.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000305184426.00a22100@pop.rasdoc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I ordered one of their GPS units. http://www.pharosgps.com/product/igps180.pdf It comes with the Cable terminated in a DB-9 and a PS-Mouse connector. The GPS wants +5V on pin 4 and GND on pin 3 of the PS-2 mouse connector. I went to Radio Shack and purchased their Mouse extension cable. When I cut the extension cable open it was color coded... Black= pin 1 Brown = pin 2 Red = pin3 Orange=pin 4 Yellow= pin 5 Green =pin 6 So I put 5V on the Orange lead and grounded the Red lead. The DB9 seems to have the same pin-out as my Garmin adaptor cable, so no Null modem was needed. The GPS came up at 4800 baud 8,n,1 Without changing it's configuration it sends the following messages: $GPGGA $GPRMC $GPGSA $GPGSV The manual with the unit is extremely lacking..... not even a pinout, but the unit is tiny and seems to work well. Paul (Kl7JG) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 5 21:21:38 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA24034 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 21:21:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "John \"Chris\" Wren" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Complete uncorrelated list of D700 commands Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:21:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <065101bf871b$0470a0a0$020010ac@private.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I got a little bored a few days ago, so I wrote a small Perl script to probe the radio for all commands that contain alpha-only characters. It tests all possible command combinations from 1 to 5 letters, containing only the letters A-Z (no lowercase, seems irrelevant). I know many of these commands are documented on Jim Gills site (http://home.netcom.com/~jimgill/tmd700a.htm). I haven't had the time in the last few days to correlate these to the known commands, but I know through some experimentation that a number of the commands listed don't appear in any lists I've found. If you want to figure out what they do, and let me know, I'll add it to the spreadsheet I'm building. I do know of several commands that appear in the TH-D7a that don't appear in the D700, and vice versa. Look at www.kd4dts.com/amateur/radios/tmd700/index.html in a few days to find this list, and a Excel spreadsheet with what I know so far. I let it run up through 'BGWPMF' before I aborted the test so I could actually install the radio in a vehicle. I didn't find any 4 letter commands past VVOL, none in the 5 letter group range, and none in the 6 letter group range that I tested up through. I pretty much trust the software, since it did find every command that is documented in Jim Gills list (take that for what you will, it's only software). A command was considered as existing if it returned anything except a '?', which indicates the radio doesn't know what it means. All commands the radio knows about return 'N' if improper parameters are supplied. Note that some commands are not valid unless the radio is in a certain mode (I can't remember what they were, but there were two that were ignored if the radio wasn't in VFO mode when the command is issued). Note that the script doesn't test *through* the TNC, so any possible TNC specific commands won't be listed. If a command returns more that one line of data, I edited down to one command per line. There are 6 commands that timed out that have something to do with the SSTV. I haven't had time to research those (not much interest, to be honest!). If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail me. I'll provide the Perl script to anyone that asks (it'll probably wind up on the afore-mentioned web page if more than two people are interested...) It's written for Linux (serial ports), but *easily* ports to Windoze with the serial port library. (161 commands are listed below, if you didn't want to count them yourself...) -- Chris, KD4DTS Fri Feb 25 12:46:35 2000: Got something - AD (AD 0) Fri Feb 25 12:46:36 2000: Got something - AG (N) Fri Feb 25 12:46:37 2000: Got something - AI (AI 1) Fri Feb 25 12:46:38 2000: Got something - BC (BC 1,1) Fri Feb 25 12:46:39 2000: Got something - BY (N) Fri Feb 25 12:46:41 2000: Got something - CH (CH 0) Fri Feb 25 12:46:42 2000: Got something - CP (CP 0) Fri Feb 25 12:46:43 2000: Got something - CR (N) Fri Feb 25 12:46:44 2000: Got something - CT (CT 0) Fri Feb 25 12:46:45 2000: Got something - CW (N) Fri Feb 25 12:46:46 2000: Got something - DL (DL 1) Fri Feb 25 12:46:47 2000: Got something - DM (N) Fri Feb 25 12:46:48 2000: Got something - DS (DS 0) Fri Feb 25 12:46:49 2000: Got something - DW (DW BUF 1,01240050000,6,0,0,0,0,0,09,0010,09,000000000,0) Fri Feb 25 12:46:51 2000: Got something - FL (FL 00118,00135,00136,00199,00136,00174,00200,00299,00300,00399,00300,00399,0040 0,00523,00400,00469,00800,01299) Fri Feb 25 12:46:52 2000: Got something - FQ (FQ 01240050000,6) Fri Feb 25 12:46:53 2000: Got something - GC (N) Fri Feb 25 12:46:54 2000: Got something - GM (N) Fri Feb 25 12:46:55 2000: Got something - GU (GU 0) Fri Feb 25 12:46:57 2000: Got something - ID (ID TM-D700) Fri Feb 25 12:46:59 2000: Got something - LK (LK 0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:00 2000: Got something - MC (N) Fri Feb 25 12:47:01 2000: Got something - MD (MD 0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:02 2000: Got something - MP (N) Fri Feb 25 12:47:03 2000: Got something - MR (N) Fri Feb 25 12:47:04 2000: Got something - MW (N) Fri Feb 25 12:47:06 2000: Got something - NP (NP 0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:07 2000: Got something - OS (OS 000000000) Fri Feb 25 12:47:08 2000: Got something - PC (N) Fri Feb 25 12:47:09 2000: Got something - PF (N) Fri Feb 25 12:47:10 2000: Got something - PM (PM 0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:11 2000: Got something - PP (PP RELAY,WIDE) Fri Feb 25 12:47:12 2000: Got something - PS (PS 1) Fri Feb 25 12:47:13 2000: Got something - PT (PT 2) Fri Feb 25 12:47:15 2000: Got something - PV (N) Fri Feb 25 12:47:16 2000: Got something - RC (RC 0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:17 2000: Got something - RX (RX) Fri Feb 25 12:47:18 2000: Got something - SC (SC 0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:19 2000: Got something - SM (N) Fri Feb 25 12:47:20 2000: Got something - SQ (N) Fri Feb 25 12:47:20 2000: Skipping SR Fri Feb 25 12:47:21 2000: Got something - ST (ST 6) Fri Feb 25 12:47:23 2000: Got something - TH (TH 0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:24 2000: Got something - TN (TN 09) Fri Feb 25 12:47:25 2000: Got something - TO (TO 0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:25 2000: Skipping TT Fri Feb 25 12:47:25 2000: Skipping TX Fri Feb 25 12:47:26 2000: Got something - TZ (TZ 24) Fri Feb 25 12:47:27 2000: Got something - UP (UP BUF 1,01240075000,6,0,0,0,0,0,09,0010,09,000000000,0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:28 2000: Got something - VO (N) Fri Feb 25 12:47:29 2000: Got something - VR (N) Fri Feb 25 12:47:30 2000: Got something - VW (N) Fri Feb 25 12:47:33 2000: Got something - ABC (ABC 0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:38 2000: Got something - AIP (AIP 0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:41 2000: Got something - AMR (AMR 0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:43 2000: Got something - APO (APO 0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:45 2000: Got something - ARL (ARL 0000) Fri Feb 25 12:47:46 2000: Got something - ARO (ARO 1) Fri Feb 25 12:47:48 2000: Got something - ASC (N) Fri Feb 25 12:47:53 2000: Got something - BCN (BCN 0) Fri Feb 25 12:47:55 2000: Got something - BEP (BEP 1) Fri Feb 25 12:48:04 2000: Got something - BUF (N) Fri Feb 25 12:48:11 2000: Got something - CIN (CIN) Fri Feb 25 12:48:15 2000: Got something - CNT (CNT 08) Fri Feb 25 12:48:19 2000: Got something - CTD (N) Fri Feb 25 12:48:20 2000: Got something - CTN (CTN 09) Fri Feb 25 12:48:25 2000: Got something - DCS (DCS 0) Fri Feb 25 12:48:29 2000: Got something - DIG (DIG 0) Fri Feb 25 12:48:30 2000: Got something - DIM (DIM 1) Fri Feb 25 12:48:33 2000: Got something - DMN (N) Fri Feb 25 12:48:37 2000: Got something - DTB (DTB 0) Fri Feb 25 12:48:38 2000: Got something - DTM (DTM 0) Fri Feb 25 12:48:39 2000: Got something - DTX (DTX 0) Fri Feb 25 12:49:33 2000: Got something - ICO (ICO 0,0) Fri Feb 25 12:50:10 2000: Got something - LAN (N) Fri Feb 25 12:50:30 2000: Got something - MAC (MAC 7) Fri Feb 25 12:50:32 2000: Got something - MCL (N) Fri Feb 25 12:50:35 2000: Got something - MES (MES HELLO !!) Fri Feb 25 12:50:39 2000: Got something - MHZ (MHZ 0) Fri Feb 25 12:50:40 2000: Got something - MIN (N) Fri Feb 25 12:50:46 2000: Got something - MNA (N) Fri Feb 25 12:50:49 2000: Got something - MON (MON 0) Fri Feb 25 12:50:54 2000: Got something - MSH (N) Fri Feb 25 12:50:59 2000: Got something - MYA (N) Fri Feb 25 12:51:00 2000: Got something - MYC (MYC NOCALL) Fri Feb 25 12:51:02 2000: Got something - NAR (N) Fri Feb 25 12:51:30 2000: Got something - PIN (N) Fri Feb 25 12:51:33 2000: Got something - PMM (PMM 0) Fri Feb 25 12:51:53 2000: Got something - RBN (RBN 9) Fri Feb 25 12:51:54 2000: Got something - RCA (RCA 0) Fri Feb 25 12:51:55 2000: Got something - RCC (RCC 000) Fri Feb 25 12:51:57 2000: Got something - REP (REP 0) Fri Feb 25 12:51:59 2000: Got something - REV (REV 0) Fri Feb 25 12:52:06 2000: Got something - RSC (RSC 7) Fri Feb 25 12:52:07 2000: Got something - RSV (RSV ) Fri Feb 25 12:52:12 2000: Got something - SCC (SCC NOCALL) Fri Feb 25 12:52:14 2000: Got something - SCR (SCR 0) Fri Feb 25 12:52:15 2000: Got something - SCT (SCT NOCALL) Fri Feb 25 12:52:17 2000: Got something - SFT (SFT 0) Fri Feb 25 12:52:19 2000: Got something - SHT (SHT 0) Fri Feb 25 12:52:22 2000: Got something - SMC (SMC 7) Fri Feb 25 12:52:23 2000: Got something - SMY (SMY ) Fri Feb 25 12:52:25 2000: Got something - SPD (N) Fri Feb 25 12:52:28 2000: Got something - SSL (N) Fri Feb 25 12:52:29 2000: Got something - SSQ (N) Fri Feb 25 12:59:54 2000: Over 5 seconds with no good data with command STC Fri Feb 25 13:00:00 2000: Over 5 seconds with no good data with command STM Fri Feb 25 13:00:06 2000: Over 5 seconds with no good data with command STP Fri Feb 25 13:00:12 2000: Over 5 seconds with no good data with command STR Fri Feb 25 13:00:18 2000: Over 5 seconds with no good data with command STS Fri Feb 25 13:00:24 2000: Over 5 seconds with no good data with command STT Fri Feb 25 13:00:46 2000: Got something - TNC (TNC 2) Fri Feb 25 13:00:48 2000: Got something - TOT (TOT 2) Fri Feb 25 13:00:52 2000: Got something - TSP (TSP 1) Fri Feb 25 13:00:56 2000: Got something - TXI (TXI 4) Fri Feb 25 13:00:57 2000: Got something - TYD (TYD 1,2,0F,1,,1) Fri Feb 25 13:01:04 2000: Got something - ULC (N) Fri Feb 25 13:01:07 2000: Got something - UPR (UPR APK101) Fri Feb 25 13:01:14 2000: Got something - VCS (VCS 0) Fri Feb 25 13:01:19 2000: Got something - VMC (N) Fri Feb 25 13:01:21 2000: Got something - VOM (VOM 0) Fri Feb 25 13:01:24 2000: Got something - VSC (VSC 0) Fri Feb 25 13:01:25 2000: Got something - VSM (VSM 2) Fri Feb 25 13:01:30 2000: Got something - WAY (WAY 0) Fri Feb 25 13:04:45 2000: Got something - ABLG (ABLG ) Fri Feb 25 13:07:30 2000: Got something - AMGG (AMGG ALL,QST,CQ,KWD) Fri Feb 25 13:07:38 2000: Got something - AMSG (N) Fri Feb 25 13:08:50 2000: Got something - ARLM (ARLM ) Fri Feb 25 13:12:34 2000: Got something - BEPT (BEPT 3) Fri Feb 25 13:16:52 2000: Got something - BVOL (BVOL 5) Fri Feb 25 13:20:58 2000: Got something - CKEY (CKEY 0) Fri Feb 25 13:25:11 2000: Got something - DATE (DATE 000225) Fri Feb 25 13:25:13 2000: Got something - DATP (DATP 0) Fri Feb 25 13:25:43 2000: Got something - DCSD (N) Fri Feb 25 13:25:44 2000: Got something - DCSN (DCSN 0010) Fri Feb 25 13:29:53 2000: Got something - DTBA (DTBA 0) Fri Feb 25 13:44:10 2000: Got something - FUNC (FUNC 1) Fri Feb 25 13:46:21 2000: Got something - GDAT (N) Fri Feb 25 14:16:14 2000: Got something - KILO (KILO 0) Fri Feb 25 14:21:55 2000: Got something - LDEL (N) Fri Feb 25 14:23:20 2000: Got something - LIST (N) Fri Feb 25 14:28:22 2000: Got something - MCNT (MCNT 0) Fri Feb 25 14:32:05 2000: Got something - MPNA (N) Fri Feb 25 14:33:25 2000: Got something - MUTE (MUTE 0) Fri Feb 25 14:37:56 2000: Got something - NMSG (N) Fri Feb 25 14:48:22 2000: Got something - PAMB (PAMB 0) Fri Feb 25 14:51:22 2000: Got something - PKSA (PKSA 0) Fri Feb 25 14:52:24 2000: Got something - POSC (POSC 00) Fri Feb 25 14:52:25 2000: Got something - POSF (N) Fri Feb 25 15:03:22 2000: Got something - REPH (REPH 0) Fri Feb 25 15:11:54 2000: Got something - SKTN (SKTN 09) Fri Feb 25 15:12:24 2000: Got something - SMSG (SMSG ) Fri Feb 25 15:13:48 2000: Got something - SSEL (SSEL 1) Fri Feb 25 15:14:02 2000: Got something - STAT (N) Fri Feb 25 15:14:17 2000: Got something - STXR (STXR 0) Fri Feb 25 15:16:58 2000: Got something - TEMP (TEMP 0) Fri Feb 25 15:17:59 2000: Got something - TIME (TIME 1517) Fri Feb 25 15:23:41 2000: Got something - UDIG (UDIG RELAY) Fri Feb 25 15:26:03 2000: Got something - UMSG (UMSG 1) Fri Feb 25 15:26:48 2000: Got something - UPOS (UPOS 1) Fri Feb 25 15:35:16 2000: Got something - VVOL (VVOL 5) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 02:26:52 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id CAA10718 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 02:26:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 02:26:18 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] More on the Small GPS.... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000306022618.007ed100@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk What is the price? I don't see it mentioned. Mark At 06:53 PM 3/5/00 -0500, Paul Breed wrote: > >I ordered one of their GPS units. >http://www.pharosgps.com/product/igps180.pdf > >It comes with the Cable terminated in a DB-9 and a PS-Mouse connector. > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 06:00:59 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA24606 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 06:00:57 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: rasdpaul@pop.rasdoc.com Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 06:05:20 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Paul Breed Subject: [htaprs] Re: More on the Small GPS.... In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000306060455.00cc4900@pop.rasdoc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 02:26 AM 3/6/00 -0600, you wrote: >What is the price? I don't see it mentioned. > >Mark $125.00 Paul (Kl7JG) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 08:36:59 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA28341 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:36:51 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:36:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Garmin does not adhere to the NMEA standard. In order to transfer waypoints, you must change the interface protocol in the Garmin GPS unit to their proprietary protocol. After transferring waypoint info, switch it back. I don't know why garmin did this. They screwed-up an otherwise fine product line. Good luck Rich Carter - KE1EV -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of hasan schiers Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 8:19 AM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ I'm a VERY happy new owner of the D700. I'll write up some comments later, but suffice it to say, "WOW"! The only feature I cannot seem to get to work the way I expect it to is the automatic transfer of stations from the D700 to my Garmin II+ as waypoints. 1. I'm running a Palm IIIx. 2. D700 is in TNC Packet mode 3. The waypoint is turned on to NMEA 9 in D700 menu. 4. I have a 3 wire connect using the supplied cable (D700) to my Garmin. Everything else works perfectly with the Palm IIIx and pocketAPRS. What a dream mobile station! I get a nice smooth gps track on the maps, I see the gps data coming in on the monitor screen of the Palm. My position reports go out just fine....everything is just ducky. Perhaps in TNC Packet mode the data is not output to the gps? Or have I missed some parameter? From the way I read the manual, it seems to me that when I receive a valid position from any station on the d700, that data is supposed to be translated to the proper nmea format and read by the Garmin gps II+ (2.07 firmware), and displayed on the map screen with 9 characters as a waypoint. (I don't really have a "map" on the II+, just a tracking screen. Maybe that is the problem, it won't even show relative position...but I did expect it to do so. This is a "curiousity, not important at all. I would never use the II+ for any practical map tracking...it's just that the "feature" looks like it's supposed to be there, and it doesn't seem to work. Tnx 73 hasan schiers schiers@netins.net N0AN hasan schiers schiers@netins.net N0AN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rcarter@isi.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 08:59:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA29074 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:59:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "bob" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:58:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003101bf877c$695a8e20$0a00a8c0@main.home> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi Richard Garmin does comply with the NMEA standard. Waypoints are plotted fine on my GPSIII+ using the standard NMEA input/output and my D7A. Haven't got my D700 yet but I'm sure that will work as well (I hope!). 73 de bob -----Original Message----- From: Richard Carter To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Date: Monday, March 06, 2000 09:32 Subject: [htaprs] RE: Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ >Garmin does not adhere to the NMEA standard. In order to transfer >waypoints, you must change the interface protocol in the Garmin GPS unit to >their proprietary protocol. After transferring waypoint info, switch it >back. > >I don't know why garmin did this. They screwed-up an otherwise fine product >line. > >Good luck >Rich Carter - KE1EV > >-----Original Message----- >From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org >[mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of hasan schiers >Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 8:19 AM >To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS >Subject: [htaprs] Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ > > >I'm a VERY happy new owner of the D700. I'll write up some comments later, >but suffice it to say, "WOW"! > >The only feature I cannot seem to get to work the way I expect it to is the >automatic transfer of stations from the D700 to my Garmin II+ as waypoints. > >1. I'm running a Palm IIIx. >2. D700 is in TNC Packet mode >3. The waypoint is turned on to NMEA 9 in D700 menu. >4. I have a 3 wire connect using the supplied cable (D700) to my Garmin. > >Everything else works perfectly with the Palm IIIx and pocketAPRS. What a >dream mobile station! I get a nice smooth gps track on the maps, I see the >gps data coming in on the monitor screen of the Palm. My position reports go >out just fine....everything is just ducky. > >Perhaps in TNC Packet mode the data is not output to the gps? Or have I >missed some parameter? From the way I read the manual, it seems to me that >when I receive a valid position from any station on the d700, that data is >supposed to be translated to the proper nmea format and read by the Garmin >gps II+ (2.07 firmware), and displayed on the map screen with 9 characters >as a waypoint. (I don't really have a "map" on the II+, just a tracking >screen. Maybe that is the problem, it won't even show relative >position...but I did expect it to do so. > >This is a "curiousity, not important at all. I would never use the II+ for >any practical map tracking...it's just that the "feature" looks like it's >supposed to be there, and it doesn't seem to work. > >Tnx > >73 > >hasan schiers >schiers@netins.net >N0AN > > > >hasan schiers >schiers@netins.net >N0AN > > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rcarter@isi.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: W2G3ZFJ@UNIX.ASB.COM >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 09:00:34 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA29102 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:00:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [198.144.110.225] Reply-To: ke6ncx@arrl.net From: "Neil ke6ncx" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: htaprs digest: Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 06:59:02 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <20000306145903.87152.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I own a D7A, not a D700, but I understand they're the same in this way (along with many others.) The output to the GPS is a feature of the "APRS" mode. When the TNC is open in the packet mode, n output t the GPS. Neil Fullagar, KE6NCX Original msg follows. Subject: Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ From: "hasan schiers" Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 07:19:10 -0600 X-Message-Number: 4 I'm a VERY happy new owner of the D700. I'll write up some comments later, but suffice it to say, "WOW"! The only feature I cannot seem to get to work the way I expect it to is the automatic transfer of stations from the D700 to my Garmin II+ as waypoints. 1. I'm running a Palm IIIx. 2. D700 is in TNC Packet mode 3. The waypoint is turned on to NMEA 9 in D700 menu. 4. I have a 3 wire connect using the supplied cable (D700) to my Garmin. Everything else works perfectly with the Palm IIIx and pocketAPRS. What a dream mobile station! I get a nice smooth gps track on the maps, I see the gps data coming in on the monitor screen of the Palm. My position reports go out just fine....everything is just ducky. Perhaps in TNC Packet mode the data is not output to the gps? Or have I missed some parameter? From the way I read the manual, it seems to me that when I receive a valid position from any station on the d700, that data is supposed to be translated to the proper nmea format and read by the Garmin gps II+ (2.07 firmware), and displayed on the map screen with 9 characters as a waypoint. (I don't really have a "map" on the II+, just a tracking screen. Maybe that is the problem, it won't even show relative position...but I did expect it to do so. This is a "curiousity, not important at all. I would never use the II+ for any practical map tracking...it's just that the "feature" looks like it's supposed to be there, and it doesn't seem to work. Tnx 73 hasan schiers schiers@netins.net N0AN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 09:17:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA29822 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:17:15 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:17:11 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <003101bf877c$695a8e20$0a00a8c0@main.home> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I can't speak for the latest Garmin units, perhaps they fixed the problem. The NMEA-183 standard defines a protocol for transferring waypoints and routes. Garmin units that I've used do not recognize these sentences, but instead require that the user switch to a proprietary protocol. This must be done by pressing buttons on the Garmin, so it can't even be automated. To my knowledge, Northstar and Magellan are the only popular units that fully comply with NMEA-183. Rich Carter - KE1EV -----Original Message----- From: bob [mailto:w2g3zfj@unix.asb.com] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 9:58 AM To: Richard Carter; TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: Re: [htaprs] RE: Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ Hi Richard Garmin does comply with the NMEA standard. Waypoints are plotted fine on my GPSIII+ using the standard NMEA input/output and my D7A. Haven't got my D700 yet but I'm sure that will work as well (I hope!). 73 de bob -----Original Message----- From: Richard Carter To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Date: Monday, March 06, 2000 09:32 Subject: [htaprs] RE: Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ >Garmin does not adhere to the NMEA standard. In order to transfer >waypoints, you must change the interface protocol in the Garmin GPS unit to >their proprietary protocol. After transferring waypoint info, switch it >back. > >I don't know why garmin did this. They screwed-up an otherwise fine product >line. > >Good luck >Rich Carter - KE1EV > >-----Original Message----- >From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org >[mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of hasan schiers >Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 8:19 AM >To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS >Subject: [htaprs] Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ > > >I'm a VERY happy new owner of the D700. I'll write up some comments later, >but suffice it to say, "WOW"! > >The only feature I cannot seem to get to work the way I expect it to is the >automatic transfer of stations from the D700 to my Garmin II+ as waypoints. > >1. I'm running a Palm IIIx. >2. D700 is in TNC Packet mode >3. The waypoint is turned on to NMEA 9 in D700 menu. >4. I have a 3 wire connect using the supplied cable (D700) to my Garmin. > >Everything else works perfectly with the Palm IIIx and pocketAPRS. What a >dream mobile station! I get a nice smooth gps track on the maps, I see the >gps data coming in on the monitor screen of the Palm. My position reports go >out just fine....everything is just ducky. > >Perhaps in TNC Packet mode the data is not output to the gps? Or have I >missed some parameter? From the way I read the manual, it seems to me that >when I receive a valid position from any station on the d700, that data is >supposed to be translated to the proper nmea format and read by the Garmin >gps II+ (2.07 firmware), and displayed on the map screen with 9 characters >as a waypoint. (I don't really have a "map" on the II+, just a tracking >screen. Maybe that is the problem, it won't even show relative >position...but I did expect it to do so. > >This is a "curiousity, not important at all. I would never use the II+ for >any practical map tracking...it's just that the "feature" looks like it's >supposed to be there, and it doesn't seem to work. > >Tnx > >73 > >hasan schiers >schiers@netins.net >N0AN > > > >hasan schiers >schiers@netins.net >N0AN > > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rcarter@isi.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: W2G3ZFJ@UNIX.ASB.COM >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 11:03:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA03539 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:03:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 10:04:52 -0700 From: Brian Badger Subject: [htaprs] RE: TH-D7 Accessories Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38C3E534.E5A12664@wcom.com> Precedence: bulk "Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC" wrote: > I am completely satisfied with this radio and highly recommend it. Am still > waiting for an HT like the TH-D7A with a built in GPS like the Garmin III+ > with maps. Boy, wouldn't that be neat for a small tracker. It would also > be neat if this radio could be used as a portable digi on a mountain top. > Just dreaming........ I'm sure there are some SmartGuys at Kenwood and Garmin who have this thought already. We are still in Gen 1.. just you wait until Gen 2 (oh boy oh boy). It should also use RTCM dgps corrections received on the APRS frequency. Ooo Ooo Ooo. And be able to be configured as a dgps base station if you supply it's exact location, or allow it to figure out it's exact location by averaging out selective availability. And it should run Linux, with all of the software open-source. The D7 is a great radio for what it is... so it's easy to imagine it having every dream feature imaginable. Still, I don't know how comfortable I'd feel with an $800 HT on my belt. The D7 is expensive enough as it is that I'm anxious about dropping it -- an unfortunate event that an HT owner must accept will happen. -- Brian, KC0HIR Mobile in the Miata --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 15:42:12 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA14991 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:42:12 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: rasdpaul@pop.rasdoc.com Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 15:47:18 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Paul Breed Subject: [htaprs] Re: More on the Small GPS.... In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000306150641.00b67e30@pop.enteract.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000306154611.00cb3470@pop.rasdoc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Paul, > >Did they send you the wire colors for the serial interface? > >The serial connector is potted so it's going to be tough to figure out >which wires go where. > >dave No I have not yet cut their cable. My color are the colors in the RadioShack mouse extension cable. I am going to cut my cable in the next few days.... I'll post the result. Paul >At 06:53 PM 3/5/00 -0500, you wrote: > >>I ordered one of their GPS units. >>http://www.pharosgps.com/product/igps180.pdf >> >>It comes with the Cable terminated in a DB-9 and a PS-Mouse connector. >> >> >>The GPS wants +5V on pin 4 and GND on pin 3 of the PS-2 mouse connector. >>I went to Radio Shack and purchased their Mouse extension cable. >>When I cut the extension cable open it was color coded... >> >>Black= pin 1 >>Brown = pin 2 >>Red = pin3 >>Orange=pin 4 >>Yellow= pin 5 >>Green =pin 6 >> >>So I put 5V on the Orange lead and grounded the Red lead. >>The DB9 seems to have the same pin-out as my Garmin adaptor cable, >>so no Null modem was needed. >>The GPS came up at 4800 baud 8,n,1 >> >>Without changing it's configuration it sends the following messages: >>$GPGGA >>$GPRMC >>$GPGSA >>$GPGSV >> >>The manual with the unit is extremely lacking..... not even a pinout, >>but the unit is tiny and seems to work well. >> >>Paul (Kl7JG) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>--- >>You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: n9qnz@arrl.net >>To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > >-- >Join our SETI@home team at www.wuies.com > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 15:48:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA15216 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:48:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Hazen, Dwight L" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: More on the Small GPS.... Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:46:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB6403556701@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk After you cut the cable (leave enough wire from the plug) use your volt ohm meter to figure out the 9 pin to wire color on the discard end of the cable. This should tell you what you need to know. Dwight Dwight L. Hazen, Indiana University, UITS Bloomington, In. 47408-7378 812-855-5367 hazen@indiana.edu http://php.ucs.indiana.edu/~hazen/ Ham Radio wb9tlh@arrl.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Breed [SMTP:Paul@rasdoc.com] > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 3:47 PM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Subject: [htaprs] Re: More on the Small GPS.... > > > >Paul, > > > >Did they send you the wire colors for the serial interface? > > > >The serial connector is potted so it's going to be tough to figure out > >which wires go where. > > > >dave > > No I have not yet cut their cable. > My color are the colors in the RadioShack mouse extension cable. > I am going to cut my cable in the next few days.... > I'll post the result. > > Paul > > > > >At 06:53 PM 3/5/00 -0500, you wrote: > > > >>I ordered one of their GPS units. > >>http://www.pharosgps.com/product/igps180.pdf > >> > >>It comes with the Cable terminated in a DB-9 and a PS-Mouse connector. > >> > >> > >>The GPS wants +5V on pin 4 and GND on pin 3 of the PS-2 mouse connector. > >>I went to Radio Shack and purchased their Mouse extension cable. > >>When I cut the extension cable open it was color coded... > >> > >>Black= pin 1 > >>Brown = pin 2 > >>Red = pin3 > >>Orange=pin 4 > >>Yellow= pin 5 > >>Green =pin 6 > >> > >>So I put 5V on the Orange lead and grounded the Red lead. > >>The DB9 seems to have the same pin-out as my Garmin adaptor cable, > >>so no Null modem was needed. > >>The GPS came up at 4800 baud 8,n,1 > >> > >>Without changing it's configuration it sends the following messages: > >>$GPGGA > >>$GPRMC > >>$GPGSA > >>$GPGSV > >> > >>The manual with the unit is extremely lacking..... not even a pinout, > >>but the unit is tiny and seems to work well. > >> > >>Paul (Kl7JG) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>--- > >>You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: n9qnz@arrl.net > >>To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > >-- > >Join our SETI@home team at www.wuies.com > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: hazen@indiana.edu > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 16:33:25 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA17408 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:33:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Dobbs, Mike" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7A for my first radio? Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:31:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <548152BB0AD9D2119C400008C7CFE8C8636491@gold-exch.amgen.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm studying for my first Ham license (Technician) because I want to get into APRS. I want to build a transponder for my sailboat (Tornado catamaran) and have the data routed to the internet so friends/family can follow my near-shore adventures. I already have a Garmin GPS III+ and have been researching the TH-D7A as the best overall choice for the project. Is this unit "too much radio" for a beginner? I know it's expensive, but to get all the components separately used, I'd still be spending ~$200...with the additional hassle of all the cabling, less-compactness etc.. This is important because it's all got to fit into a portable watertight Pelican box with a minimum of fuss. I feel I can make good use of the TH-D7A on the water, on the road and on the hiking trails to justify the cost. Mike Dobbs --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 16:53:23 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA18361 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:53:22 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: jsk-jonk@44.16.2.10 Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 14:53:13 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Jonathan Kaplan Subject: [htaprs] Re: More on the Small GPS.... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk At 04:46 PM 03/06/2000 -0500, Hazen, Dwight L wrote: >After you cut the cable (leave enough wire from the plug) use your volt ohm >meter to figure out the 9 pin to wire color on the discard end of the cable. > > > This should tell you what you need to know. > > Dwight I just ordered two units plus their 12volt adapter which they just got, They also promised to send me a pin-out chart. I'll let you know what I find when I get the order. Jonathan KO6XS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 17:05:38 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA18869 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:05:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 18:07:02 -0500 From: "Edward A. Behl" Reply-To: ed@eabehl.com Organization: E A BEHL Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A for my first radio? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38C43A16.5B37@eabehl.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Mike - > Is this unit "too much radio" for a beginner? In a word, no. Aside from the integral TNC and APRS software, the TH-D7 is otherwise comparable to other dual-receiver dual-band H-T's on the market. In fact, there are some notable "standard" dual-bander features that the D7 is lacking. Noticeably missing are cross-band repeat, and the ability to tune UHF or out-of-band VHF frequencies on both receivers. But at only about $60 more than competitive units, the D7 with a 12/96 TNC and APRS terminal is a bargain. For the primary marine application you describe, the D7 should be a perfect fit, and it isn't too complicated for the new ham. Prepare for a substantial learning curve with APRS in general. Get in touch with existing hams who are active and seasoned in APRS, and ask lots of questions; and you'll be fine. Because APRS is a relatively new technology, and still quite evolutionary, you should have no problem finding fellow hams eager to help. Good luck with your test and your tracker project! 73 -- Edward A. Behl - KG4ALG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 17:24:58 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA19449 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:24:57 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: jord.thor.sbay.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:17:27 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Zarzycki To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7A & APRS status messages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Some of the APRS status messages I receive on my TH-D7A appear to be truncated on the HT display. How do I access the rest of the status message? (I have not found anything in the manual yet that explains how to access the rest of the status message...) Thanks in advance! davez -- Dave Zarzycki KF6ZSS http://thor.sbay.org/~dave/ http://www.sbay.net/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 17:25:26 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA19466 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:25:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: rbost@itexas.net (Roy Bost) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A for my first radio? Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:21:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <006001bf87c2$bb5861c0$45f530d1@brmptrue> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To make the D7 easier to use, download the control program from Kenwood web site. It's free and sure makes programming the D7 much easier! Good luck on your exam! Roy Bost N5TAM rbost@itexas.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 17:28:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA19620 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:28:38 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: rasdpaul@pop.rasdoc.com Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 17:33:06 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Paul Breed Subject: [htaprs] Fwd: Re: More on the Small GPS.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000306172814.00cb5d60@pop.rasdoc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >I just ordered two units plus their 12volt adapter which they just got, They >also promised to send me a pin-out chart. I'll let you know what I find >when I get the order. They sent me the pin out chart.... as a bmp file. If anyone wants it I'll forward it to anyone that requests it. Paul (Kl7JG) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 17:29:51 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA19656 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:29:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Thomas Nowicki" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] RE: Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:53:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <007701bf878c$854f4840$26bd3604@vanstar.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bob I agree! I have the GPS III+ and it works great with plotting waypoints through the D7A. And quell your fears about the D700. The GPS III+ works great with it, and uses the same cable as the D7A. Tom KF9JW ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 9:58 AM Subject: [htaprs] RE: Waypoints fm D700 to Garmin II+ > Hi Richard > > Garmin does comply with the NMEA standard. Waypoints are plotted fine on my > GPSIII+ using the standard NMEA input/output and my D7A. Haven't got my D700 > yet but I'm sure that will work as well (I hope!). > > 73 de bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 17:49:19 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA20216 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:49:17 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: davev@pop.enteract.com Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 17:48:27 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David Vrona Subject: [htaprs] Re: More on the Small GPS.... Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000306173734.00b66100@pop.enteract.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Ok. The two wires on the Pharos GPS going to the PS/2 mouse connector are the yellow and black wires. The yellow is going to #3 on the Pharos diagram and the black is going to #4. This is assuming that the diagram is numbered when looking at the pins. At 06:53 PM 3/5/00 -0500, you wrote: >I ordered one of their GPS units. >http://www.pharosgps.com/product/igps180.pdf > >It comes with the Cable terminated in a DB-9 and a PS-Mouse connector. > > >The GPS wants +5V on pin 4 and GND on pin 3 of the PS-2 mouse connector. >I went to Radio Shack and purchased their Mouse extension cable. >When I cut the extension cable open it was color coded... > >Black= pin 1 >Brown = pin 2 >Red = pin3 >Orange=pin 4 >Yellow= pin 5 >Green =pin 6 -- Join our SETI@home team at www.wuies.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 18:46:58 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA22414 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 18:46:56 -0600 (CST) From: RASNM@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:46:22 EST Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A for my first radio? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <6.2f900cc.25f5ab5e@aol.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 3/6/00 3:34:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, mdobbs@amgen.com writes: << I want to build a transponder for my sailboat (Tornado catamaran) >> Mike, I got my first license last year, and picked the D7A as my first radio, no major regrets. The speaker failed within 2 months but Kenwood fixed it. The radio is a learning opportunity and I am still learning. I am doing APRS and hope to do some packet soon. Also New Mexico has a great 2 meter repeater system. APRServe Find :KD5HTY-7 Though I live in Albuquerque I hope to do some sailing on the Inside Passage off the coast of BC this year. Where are your home sailing waters? 73-ron-kd5hty --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 6 23:58:23 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA04375 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 23:58:22 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: rparry@jittlov.qualcomm.com Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:57:58 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Richard Parry Subject: [htaprs] Does the Kenwood D700A cover 220MHz Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000306215119.00d51e70@jittlov.qualcomm.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Page 90 of the D700A manual (bottom section) says that the "A" receiver covers 200 to 300 MHz. However, I was unable to tune outside 136-199 MHz. I want to listen to a portion of the 220MHz band. Am I doing something wrong or does the D700A not support this band. thanks, Rich Parry, W9IF --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 05:57:19 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id FAA27398 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:57:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 06:59:02 -0500 From: "Edward A. Behl" Reply-To: ed@eabehl.com Organization: E A BEHL Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: HT APRS Reflector Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A for my first radio? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38C4EF06.74C0@eabehl.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Roy - It's no longer there. Kenwood apparently put D7 owners on notice that it was a beta copy that would not be available forever. (I don't remember being told this by Kenwood, but maybe someone does.) Now you have to purchase it (street price about $55US) with the PG-4W package that includes the PC to D7 cable. 73 -- Edward A. Behl - KG4ALG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 06:32:21 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA28471 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:32:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: rbost@itexas.net (Roy Bost) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "HT APRS Reflector" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A for my first radio? Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:31:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000401bf8831$0f019440$92f430d1@brmptrue> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk A quick check of the Kenwood web site shows that the PG-4W kit is now free with the purchase of an D7 from an authorized dealer --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 06:33:23 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA28543 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:33:23 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 06:34:06 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Does the Kenwood D700A cover 220MHz From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/6/00 11:57 PM, Richard Parry at rparry@qualcomm.com wrote: > Page 90 of the D700A manual (bottom section) says that the "A" receiver > covers 200 to 300 MHz. However, I was unable to tune outside 136-199 MHz. I > want to listen to a portion of the 220MHz band. Am I doing something wrong > or does the D700A not support this band. You need to press the "band" button, which I believe is the Function (F) key plus pressing the volume knob for band A. Or you can use direct frequency entry from the mic if you have that turned on. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 07:51:07 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA00745 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:51:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Richard \"Flip\" Minton" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] D7A with an amp Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:49:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <017c01bf883c$113d2b60$0100a8c0@flip> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone used their D7A with a Mirage dual band amplifier (BD-35)? Comments? Problems? Thanx Flip Minton N9AZZ fminton@midwest.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 07:57:53 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA00965 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:57:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Mark D. Conner" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] D7 control software location? Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:57:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <011a01bf883d$19cb4e00$0100a8c0@blvue1.ne.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I've found D700 and V7A control software on Kenwood's FTP site, but nothing for the D7. Anyone have a link, or is it vaporware? 73 de Mark N9XTN >Subject: Re: TH-D7A for my first radio? >From: rbost@itexas.net (Roy Bost) > >To make the D7 easier to use, download the control program from Kenwood web >site. It's free and sure makes programming the D7 much easier! > >Good luck on your exam! > >Roy Bost N5TAM >rbost@itexas.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 08:16:08 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA01568 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:16:07 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Skycommand and VC-H1 questions Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:15:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Two questions: Has anyone used Skycommand? Obviously, two radios are needed. I'm wondering if the transporter radio needs to be a D7 or D700. I suspect that almost any Dual UHF receiver and TNC would work. I'm considering purchasing a TM-V7A for my shack. Buying a second D700 seems pricey, considering that I already have a TNC. Has anyone played with SSTV and the D700? I wonder if the VC-H1 is necessary to do this. I suspect that common PC hosted SSTV software would work fine with this radio. I suspect that it could be wired directly into the VC-H1 connector. Rich Carter - KE1EV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 09:00:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA02866 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:00:09 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:57:23 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Skycommand and VC-H1 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Richard Carter wrote: > Has anyone used Skycommand? > > Obviously, two radios are needed. I'm wondering if the transporter radio > needs to be a D7 or D700. I suspect that almost any Dual UHF receiver and > TNC would work. I'm considering purchasing a TM-V7A for my shack. Buying a > second D700 seems pricey, considering that I already have a TNC. Yes! this was on my long term do list, but Ill never get around to it. But with all the sleuthing going on, then any TNC and cheap radio should be able to be the transceiver interface end of the link. And in fact, any radio can be used to do the SKYCOMMANDING too. THus it will be easy to set up remote-bases on the hilltop for anyone to use... ALl we need to do is publish the commands.. which are probably arelady fully documented in the existing D7/D700 commmand postings... GO for it. Let us know... Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 09:46:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA04604 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:46:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Hazen, Dwight L" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: HT APRS Reflector , "':jnaab@indiana.edu'" <:jnaab@indiana.edu> Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A for my first radio? Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:44:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB6403556703@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, Great if you are just buying one. Not so good if your serial number is 290 and had to be on a wait list to get a D7. This free deal only applies to new radios! I sent in my registration card when I first got it, like I was told to do.. So I am out of luck. Seems they could have left the Bata software out on the server anyway as they are now giving away the production bits for free with the radio. Maybe at a later date they will post the production program on the server (hint hint). The CD has lots of useful information on it I am told, so the CD and cable might be a good deal even at $55 dollars. Kenwood still has the best web site, (Linux powered!) Keep up the good work! I cant wait for the D7000 radio to come out! I just got my D700 two months ago. Hey I never did get a Hat! hi, hi.. Dwight Dwight L. Hazen, Indiana University, UITS Bloomington, In. 47408-7378 812-855-5367 hazen@indiana.edu http://php.ucs.indiana.edu/~hazen/ Ham Radio wb9tlh@arrl.net > -----Original Message----- > From: rbost@itexas.net [SMTP:rbost@itexas.net] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 7:31 AM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Cc: HT APRS Reflector > Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A for my first radio? > > A quick check of the Kenwood web site shows that the PG-4W kit is now free > with the purchase of an D7 from an authorized dealer > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: hazen@indiana.edu > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 09:47:05 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA04622 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:47:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:48:13 -0500 From: "Edward A. Behl" Reply-To: ed@eabehl.com Organization: E A BEHL Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7A with an amp References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38C524BD.5EBF@eabehl.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Flip - > Has anyone used their D7A with a Mirage dual band amplifier (BD-35)? I use the D7 occasionally with my BD-25 docking station amp. Though a D7 adaper is not available for the docking station (probably because the battery release is on the bottom of the rig) it does work fine with the amp using a BNC/SMA adapter. If you want to run the D7 from the shack power supply, you need to get one of the radio shack or Kenwood PG-3? cables. 73 -- Edward A. Behl - KG4ALG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 10:15:29 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA05668 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:15:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:15:07 -0800 (PST) From: "Julian M. Frost" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Skycommand and VC-H1 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Richard Carter wrote: > Two questions: > > Has anyone used Skycommand? > > Obviously, two radios are needed. I'm wondering if the transporter radio > needs to be a D7 or D700. I suspect that almost any Dual UHF receiver and > TNC would work. I'm considering purchasing a TM-V7A for my shack. Buying a > second D700 seems pricey, considering that I already have a TNC. Sky Command works great for us as part of our emergency communications for the city of Costa Mesa, CA. We use it on low power on a quiet simplex frequency and have had no complaints. The system IDs itself every 10 minutes on UHF (unlike most cross-band repeaters!) so is legal in that regard. The system uses UHF for control (via packet radio) and for the auio to be transmitted on HF. A 2m frequency is used for the audio coming back from the HF side. The ARRL has tried to kill Sky Command by asking the FCC to deny Kenwood's request for a waiver to allow amateur radio operators to use frequencies in the two-meter amateur service band to remotely control an amateur station transmitting on high frequency amateur service bands. The ARRL made comments to the effect that they were representing their membership, yet almost no one knew that the legality of the Sky Command system was even at issue. The date for comments expired before the ARRL even published anything about it! For a list of comments, look up Docket number DA 99-2805. Julian --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 10:19:35 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA05783 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:19:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:19:12 -0800 (PST) From: "Julian M. Frost" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Skycommand and VC-H1 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Richard Carter wrote: > Has anyone used Skycommand? > > Obviously, two radios are needed. I'm wondering if the transporter radio > needs to be a D7 or D700. I suspect that almost any Dual UHF receiver and > TNC would work. I'm considering purchasing a TM-V7A for my shack. Buying a > second D700 seems pricey, considering that I already have a TNC. One more thing, Sky Command currently only works with certain Kenwood HF radios, ones that can be computer controlled, such as the TS-570G. So don't rush out to buy a second D7A or D700A if you don't already own a compatible HF radio! But, as you suggest, the packet control codes used can't be that difficult to decypher, so I would imagine that anyone could build an interface that would work with any radio! Julian --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 10:58:50 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA07124 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:58:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Don Boekenkruger" From: "Don Boekenkruger" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A for my first radio? Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:59:57 -0800 Organization: Burnaby Radio Communications Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002f01bf8856$92356100$217f7018@surrey1.bc.wave.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > > Though I live in Albuquerque I hope to do some sailing on the Inside Passage > off the coast of BC this year. Where are your home sailing waters? > > 73-ron-kd5hty We'll be see'n ya... on my D7 that is... Don Boekenkruger, VE7CBT Vancouver, British Columbia donb@burnabyradio.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 11:21:59 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA07801 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:21:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-ID: Reply-To: "Jim Gill" From: "Jim Gill" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 control software location? Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:21:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003b01bf8859$8c5c7680$f684fea9@compaq> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark D. Conner" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 7:57 AM Subject: [htaprs] D7 control software location? > I've found D700 and V7A control software on Kenwood's FTP site, but nothing > for the D7. Anyone have a link, or is it vaporware? > 73 de Mark N9XTN Reply from Kenwood regarding this a few weeks ago: Clifford Uyeda wrote: > The TH-D7A software (MCP-D7A) was a beta version. With most beta versions > a final release version usually follows. The final release version is the > PG-4W kit (CD + cable). Now that the PG-4W is out now, Kenwood pulled the > beta (courtesy) version off the FTP site. To my knowledge, I think Kenwood > is the only manufacturer that provides an FTP site for manuals, software > and other misc. help files. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 11:57:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA08885 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:57:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "John Harmon" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 control software location? Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:56:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <006901bf885e$7f69b280$0b40fea9@jharmon> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Why not use the Linux version??? > > I've found D700 and V7A control software on Kenwood's FTP site, but > nothing > > for the D7. Anyone have a link, or is it vaporware? > > 73 de Mark N9XTN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 15:36:58 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA18507 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:36:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "hasan schiers" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Two Winners: pocketAPRS 1.05 and D700 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:36:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <045d01bf887d$37fa3fe0$e5178ea7@netins.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I'm amazed. I was going to buy a kpc3+ to work with my palm IIIx and pocketAPRS, replacing the single port pico-packet that I've run as a dedicated tracker with a Garmin II+ for several years. A local ham (bless him), mentioned that I should take the 180 bucks I was going to spend on the kpc3+, and trade/sell my Kenwood 741 and anything else I had laying around towards the purchase of a D700. What GREAT advice that was. I got rid of two dual banders and bought the D700 for very close to what I was going to pay for the kpc3+. What a dream rig. I won't speak to it's internal APRS functionality, because I'm not using it that way. I'm running it as a "conventional" tnc with a computer (read as Palm IIIx) connected to the front panel of the main unit (standard db9 male wiring and connection). Talk about simple to get going: 1. GPS: Use the supplied sub-mini stereo jack and cable. Splice to the Garmin Data Cable coming from the II+ (RX, TX, Gnd) Plug gps into the D700 and change one menu setting. The default gps data rate and data sentence were as I had already set for my stand alone tracker, so no change was required. 2. Make power connection for radio and gps. (I used cig lighter, as I have for years) 3. Plug Palm IIIx hot-sync cable with null-modem adapter (radio shack) into the D700 db9 connector. (be sure to eliminate all but pins 2,3 and 5 to keep power consumption of the Palm IIIx at a minimum...I just cut them off the null modem adapter.) 4. Set mode on D700 side A to TNC PACKET (not TNC APRS!!). Set 144.390, high power... 5. Execute pocketAPRS (ver 1.05 as of yesterday) on the Palm IIIx. (I did have to change pocketAPRS's computer port speed from 4800 to 9600...the D700 will support no slower than 9600 baud communication between it's computer port and the computer. It will go faster, but not slower.) Things that are just toooooo slick about the D700 in this configuration: 1. Radio side "A" is now devoted to 144.39 with the TNC. Radio side "B" is used for all my "normal" fm communication needs. (no matter what freq) 2. All my local repeaters, NWS weather, police, etc are programmed into memory. Either side "A" or "B" can call on this common memory bank. 3. I can be chatting on the local 2m repeater and when the TNC wants to transmit...it just waits...held off in much the same manner as dcd would if the frequency were busy. As soon as I let up on the mike...bbrrrrrrt...out goes the packet...so fast that the voice repeater turnaround is still happening and I haven't missed a peep. 4. The operation of the two sides of the radio (if both are on the same band), is shared automatically such that you get a transparent "feel" as the tnc does its thing while you are either transmitting or listening on the other side of the radio. 5. The menu system is very easy to use, once you understand how to do basic navigation through the menus. 6. The two supplied english manuals are VERY WELL DONE. THINGS I DON'T LIKE (or would like changed): 1. The mute function doesn't seem to work if you are using TNC Packet mode. (Pressing mute is supposed to mute the speaker of the "half-radio" that does not have the PTT currently assigned to it.). It doesn't work for me and I haven't had any time to play with it to see if both "halves" are running FM voice mode makes it work. 2. Visual scan of memory channels doesn't seem to work on the "B" side when the "A" side is set to packet. It might work...but I can't seem to figure it out. It's supposed to visually scan the memory channels if you are in memory recall mode. I am, I do the keystrokes for memory scan and nothing happens. (This could be operator incompetence.) 3. The manual states that the control head is NOT replaceable. If it is stolen, damaged, or otherwise lost, Kenwood will not replace it at any price, you have to buy an entirely new radio. I'm not sure I understand their position on this, but that's what they plainly state in the manual. This radio will do so many things that it's downright scary, but setting it up for the basics is quite easy. Memory channel programming and memory naming are very straightforward, as is tone (sub-audible) setting. The ability (with very few and quite obvious keystrokes) to scan an incoming signal for its tone and immediately set your radio to comply is neat... and it works as well for Continuous Tone Coded Squelch and Digital Coded Squelch. I replaced a very good dual bander, an antenna, and tnc with the D700 (which considerably cleaned up my car), and I have more operational effectiveness than I had before. And now...on to pocketAPRS 1.05 The changes from 1.03 to 1.05 are numerous and have been posted to the SIG already, so I'll just comment on the two things I like best from that set of improvements and fixes: 1. My mobile now stays as the focus on any magnfication of the map except 64X. I always remain on the map, and my little track droplets show a clear trace of where I have been. 2. A "Find Me" function is available for those times when you aren't watching yourself. One tap on the Palm and the map is redrawn at the current level of magnification with you at the center. Very slick after you have been "mapping around". The COMBO: pocketAPRS 1.05 and Kenwood D700 I know a LOT of people have been very enthusiastic about the internal APRS capabilities of the D700...and they are, indeed, astonishing. (Very well thought out and comprehensive.) If I had a high-end GPS with high quality downloadable maps and a really nice display, I don't think I would be compelled to use pocketAPRS with the Palm. (Or if I only made short trips and was not interested in messaging much or doing a lot of "map work".) However, since I have a II+ Garmin ver 2.07 firmware, I don't have ANY maps, yet the II+ works very well. Enter pocketAPRS 1.05. I feel nearly as much at home in the car using this fine piece of software. I'm used to flash, and sizzle and functionality up the "wazoo" with WinAPRS. One would think it would be a big come-down to run any kind of APRS limp-along on a Palm IIIx. Well.....one would be WRONG. pocketAPRS is astounding. It is no crippled imitation, cheap stand-in, or otherwise impostor of the "real thing". It has the feel of WinAPRS...i.e, it is GRAPHICAL in nature and makes rich use of same, to include frequency histograms for heard stations! With its basic functionality I have what I need right in my palm. To a much larger extent, however, I can see, message, count, total, and do all sorts of things that have so cleverly been implemented in WinAPRS (and to some extent it's dos brother). I had always thought that "mobile" APRS would be a big pain. Laptops are cumbersome and fragile (and expensive). Along comes Kenwood with the D700 and suddenly it ain't so cumbersome and fragile any more, because one doesn't have to have a laptop to get first rate functionality. Internal APRS with the D700 is impressive. Palm based (pocketAPRS) with the D700 is a consummate JOY. Of course, the D700 IS pricey. That's the downside. That it more than lives up to its pricing, is the upside. I don't work for Kenwood. I don't work for the Sprouls. I don't work for Bob. I don't work for Mike. I do like their stuff. What fun! 73, hasan schiers, N0AN schiers@netins.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 15:59:28 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA19690 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:59:27 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: davev@pop.enteract.com Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:59:09 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David Vrona Subject: [htaprs] Small Pharos GPS and D-700A In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000307155128.00b6ab30@pop.enteract.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Here are the color codings for the Pharos GPS located at: http://www.pharosgps.com/product/igps180.pdf Orange TX Brown RX Red Signal GND Black VCC Yellow Power GND Shielding GND Please note: the folks at Pharos are not certain these color codings will always be used from shipment to shipment. Also, please refer to the pinout diagram posted earlier to this list. This pinout worked fine for my unit and it has been working very nicely with my D-700A. I would not recommend that you remove the connectors as I did. Build mating connectors to supply power and make the data connections. All you need is a female mini DIN and a male 9 pin serial connector. Although I did not do it (yet), I recommend you put a momentary contact switch in the power line to this GPS as that is the only way to reset it. I have not needed to do a reset so far. It's a nice little GPS, very tiny with a 6' long cable. I think it is priced fairly at $125 and makes for a nice permanent installation. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of a Garmin GPS 35 or GPS 36 but then it is considerably cheaper as well. Dave n9qnz -- Join our SETI@home team at www.wuies.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 16:58:17 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA21639 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:58:16 -0600 (CST) From: CommSupport@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:57:50 EST Subject: [htaprs] test only To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk sorry --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 20:35:04 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA28070 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:35:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Myrt Webb" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7A Range Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 19:34:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002501bf88a6$db5e4400$a77aa8d0@myrtwebb> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The range on my TH-D7A seems very limited. Repeaters I can hit with my Alinco on low power I cannot reach with high power with my TH-D7A. Anybody else have this problem? Is there a way to check out the transmitter on my Kenwood without sending it back to the manufacturer? Myrt --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 20:39:34 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA28169 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:39:32 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 20:40:34 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A Range From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/7/00 8:34 PM, Myrt Webb at mwwebb@cyberport.net wrote: > The range on my TH-D7A seems very limited. Repeaters I can hit with my > Alinco on low power I cannot reach with high power with my TH-D7A. > > Anybody else have this problem? Is there a way to check out the transmitter > on my Kenwood without sending it back to the manufacturer? Yeah. Hook it up to a power meter. What's the output power? Also, the duck on the TH-D7A is known to be pretty much a dummy load. Use the same antenna on each radio if possible. That will be a good test as well. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 21:04:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA29062 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:04:55 -0600 (CST) From: "Paul Knupke, Jr." To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A Range Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:04:37 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I replaced my stock D7 duck early on with a thin comet antenna that performs much better. 73 Paul KR4YL > Yeah. Hook it up to a power meter. What's the output power? > > Also, the duck on the TH-D7A is known to be pretty much a dummy load. Use > the same antenna on each radio if possible. That will be a good test as > well. > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 21:34:58 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA00386 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:34:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 19:36:05 -0800 Reply-To: carndt@slonet.org From: "Chris Arndt" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A Range List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <200003071936050690.008B91EB@smtp.in-con.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Which battery are you using, and how does the output power for that compare to the Alinco? *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/7/00, at 6:41 PM, Jon Ogden wrote: >on 3/7/00 8:34 PM, Myrt Webb at mwwebb@cyberport.net wrote: > >> The range on my TH-D7A seems very limited. Repeaters I can hit with my >> Alinco on low power I cannot reach with high power with my TH-D7A. >> >> Anybody else have this problem? Is there a way to check out the transmitter >> on my Kenwood without sending it back to the manufacturer? > >Yeah. Hook it up to a power meter. What's the output power? > >Also, the duck on the TH-D7A is known to be pretty much a dummy load. Use >the same antenna on each radio if possible. That will be a good test as >well. > >73, > >Jon >KE9NA > >------------------------------------- >Jon Ogden >KE9NA > >Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA > >http://www.qsl.net/ke9na > >"A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: carndt@slonet.org >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 7 22:24:10 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA01830 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:24:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 22:23:37 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A Range In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000307222337.00890320@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Many Ham radio clubs have access to a service monitor or even a simple SWR/Wattmeter. Either one should give you a indication as to the health of you HT. Perhaps it's something as simple as the offset not being right or the CTCSS tone not being selected properly. 73, Mark KC7BXS At 07:34 PM 3/7/00 -0700, Myrt Webb wrote: >The range on my TH-D7A seems very limited. Repeaters I can hit with my >Alinco on low power I cannot reach with high power with my TH-D7A. > >Anybody else have this problem? Is there a way to check out the transmitter >on my Kenwood without sending it back to the manufacturer? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 8 00:21:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA12236 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:21:13 -0600 (CST) Date: 8 Mar 2000 06:21:20 GMT From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Two Winners: pocketAPRS 1.05 and D700 Message-ID: X-Magic-Cap-Form: memo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <0A29753FEFD54F86> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id AAA12236 >I won't speak to it's internal APRS functionality, because I'm >not using it that way. I'm running it as a "conventional" tnc >with a computer (read as Palm IIIx) connected to the front >panel of the main unit (standard db9 male wiring and >connection). >1. GPS: Use the supplied sub-mini stereo jack and cable. >Splice to the Garmin Data Cable coming from the II+ (RX, TX, >Gnd) Plug gps into the D700 and change one menu setting. >The default gps data rate and data sentence were as I had >already set for my stand alone tracker, so no change was >required. The GPS port on the radio works even if the TNC is not set for APRS? That would eliminate the need for HSP cables. Can the TH-D7a do this? I was under the impression that it would not pass GPS data in or out unless it was in APRS mode, which would eliminate using an external laptop with only one serial port, which I had originally intended to do with an older spare Powerbook Duo. Someone please make my day and tell me I'm wrong. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 8 07:11:13 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA29901 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:11:09 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 06:11:48 -0700 From: "Larry Bateman" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A Range Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id HAA29901 ** High Priority ** Myrt, I have three D7A and two of them have had D30 go bad. D30 is a protection diode in the high power circuit in the D7A. The D7A would transmit in low and medium power but would not transmit in high power. This is most likely the problem from your description. Unless you are technically equipped to do this kind of repair I would suggest that you send it back to Kenwood for repair. Larry >>> "Myrt Webb" 03/07/00 07:34PM >>> The range on my TH-D7A seems very limited. Repeaters I can hit with my Alinco on low power I cannot reach with high power with my TH-D7A. Anybody else have this problem? Is there a way to check out the transmitter on my Kenwood without sending it back to the manufacturer? Myrt --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lbateman@preco.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 8 07:35:50 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA00645 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:35:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: Paul Jacques To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Small Pharos GPS and D-700A Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 05:33:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Although I did not do it (yet), I recommend you put a momentary contact >switch in the power line to this GPS as that is the only way to reset >it. I have not needed to do a reset so far. This GPS runs on 3.5 to 5.5 VDC so what did you use to drop the 12VDC from your car battery? I would like to use the Pharos with my D7 but I am trying real hard to cut the amount of cables, connectors, etc. down to put together a truly portable , easy to carry around, GPS-HT combo. Too bad I can't power the GPS from the HT some how..... Paul, WB6IWT paulj@rain.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 8 08:39:54 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA02770 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:39:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "hasan schiers" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Two Winners: pocketAPRS 1.05 and D700 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:35:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <04bb01bf890c$1b6cef00$e5178ea7@netins.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk For the D700, in TNC PACKET (non-aprs) MODE, the gps data from the gps receiver is processed by the TNC and properly read by the computer running pocketAPRS on the db9 of the d700. HOWEVER, the positions processed as WAYPOINTS by the D700 are NOT sent out to the GPS for display. Apparently only the incoming data is accepted on the D700 in TNC PACKET mode, and no data is output to the GPS for display in this mode. (And, yes, I do have the proper menu item selected to output gps data ...but it does not function in the TNC PACKET mode. I get the impression from the responses I've seen so far that the VAST majority of D700 owners are running in APRS mode, and not like I'm using it, in the TNC PACKET mode with a computer (or in my case, a PALM IIIx). I know nothing about the D7....except when it comes time to replace my 10 year old IC-32at (which is still functioning perfectly), I know what I'm gonna buy! Hope this helps, 73 hasan schiers, N0AN schiers@netins.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne H. Sanderson To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 12:21 AM Subject: [htaprs] Re: Two Winners: pocketAPRS 1.05 and D700 > The GPS port on the radio works even if the TNC is not set for APRS? That would eliminate the need for HSP cables. > Can the TH-D7a do this? I was under the impression that it would not pass GPS data in or out unless it was in APRS mode, which would eliminate using an external laptop with only one serial port, which I had originally intended to do with an older spare Powerbook Duo. Someone please make my day and tell me I'm wrong. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: SCHIERS@NETINS.NET > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 8 13:02:25 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA11298 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:02:18 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: davev@pop.enteract.com Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 13:01:38 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David Vrona Subject: [htaprs] RE: Small Pharos GPS and D-700A In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000308125635.00b68d10@pop.enteract.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 05:33 AM 3/8/00 -0800, Paul Jacques wrote: > This GPS runs on 3.5 to 5.5 VDC so what did you use to drop the >12VDC from your car battery? I would like to use the Pharos with my D7 but I >am trying real hard to cut the amount of cables, connectors, etc. down to >put together a truly portable , easy to carry around, GPS-HT combo. Too bad >I can't power the GPS from the HT some how..... Here's a great suggestion (below) I received from KG4ALG. This worked like a dream. I bought the regulator and a tiny project box with included PC board at Radio Shack. Wired it up in about 30 minutes and it's been working great. I too was tired of using a Garmin handheld in the car due to all of the cables and connectors I originally wanted to power the GPS from my D-700 but soon gave up on that. I have a D7 as well but haven't tried to tackle that setup. This GPS is small enough to velcro to the side of the D7. Perhaps you could use a voltage regulator off the D7 battery???? dave To: David Vrona Subject: Re: [htaprs] Re: D-700 mini DIN pin out????? Dave - While it might be obvious, may I suggest using a standard 7805 3-pin regulator IC available from RS and a variety of other sources. These regulators are "a dime a dozen" -- well, more like $1 apiece. Depending on current requirements, you can use a standard TO-220 plastic version made to mount on a heatsink, or the 7805L variety in a TO-92 package that looks like a regular transistor. Either will produce a regulated +5V from a wide input voltage range. You don't need any other external components, unless you want to add a small filter capacitor on the output. The three pins are input voltage, output voltage, and ground -- couldn't be much more simple. I seem to remember some discussion about using this scheme to supply the operating voltage for TripMate GPS's, which normally run on about 6.5V, but apparently will work fine at only 5V. Hope this helps... 73 -- Ed - KG4ALG -- Join our SETI@home team at www.wuies.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 8 15:13:54 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA15535 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:13:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Karl G6ODT" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Controlling msgs on D700 with a PC ? Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:09:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003901bf8942$8dd11540$eeae01d5@amd450> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Does anybody know if there are any commands that I can use with a PC control program for the TM-D700 to get the number of stored messages and to delete them ? I can display incomming messages to the station callsign of the sending station and can display the messages as I send them from the program but can't find away of finding the number in the memory and removing them. Also noticed that the AMSG command while it'll show both out going and in comming messages doesn't show the REJ message that the radio sends to the other station when the memory becomes full. One other thing is there any way of getting the packet path of the incomming message so the path can be changed for the out-going messages ? As a normal user of UI-View this is a useful way of reversing the path back to the station. 73 Karl G6ODT g6odt@yahoo.com http://members.tripod.com/~g6odt/packet.html http://backdoor.to/g6odt 24hr Digi 144.800 Relay,Wide,Irth,G6ODT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 8 15:38:59 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA16464 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:38:51 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Controlling msgs on D700 with a PC ? Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:38:46 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk It sounds like you are thinking along the same lines that I am. I'd like to use the TM-D700 in APRS mode, but have the ability to connect an external terminal for displaying, managing, and sending messages. I have not been able to determine how and if this can be done. I suspect that it can't be done. This implies that the serial port has no function when in APRS mode; a pitty! There are a number of reasons that one would want to operate in this fashion. My main reason is to avoid using a big notebook in my car. My PDA is not a Palm-Pilot. A second reason is to avoid conflicts with my serial port. Anyone out there have any suggestions? Rich Carter - KE1EV -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Karl G6ODT Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 4:09 PM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Controlling msgs on D700 with a PC ? Does anybody know if there are any commands that I can use with a PC control program for the TM-D700 to get the number of stored messages and to delete them ? I can display incomming messages to the station callsign of the sending station and can display the messages as I send them from the program but can't find away of finding the number in the memory and removing them. Also noticed that the AMSG command while it'll show both out going and in comming messages doesn't show the REJ message that the radio sends to the other station when the memory becomes full. One other thing is there any way of getting the packet path of the incomming message so the path can be changed for the out-going messages ? As a normal user of UI-View this is a useful way of reversing the path back to the station. 73 Karl G6ODT g6odt@yahoo.com http://members.tripod.com/~g6odt/packet.html http://backdoor.to/g6odt 24hr Digi 144.800 Relay,Wide,Irth,G6ODT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rcarter@isi.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 8 16:01:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA17129 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:01:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Hazen, Dwight L" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Controlling msgs on D700 with a PC ? Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:59:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB6403556714@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Yes, A small keyboard to send messages from the D700 (hey even the D7) is needed. How about this idea, A key (as in cw) that you plug into the radio to send messages, no hate mail please. Even cw would be faster to send that trying to deal with the Mic or keyboard when you are driving! Just a thought to get people thinking about how to send messages. Dwight Dwight L. Hazen, Indiana University, UITS Bloomington, In. 47408-7378 812-855-5367 hazen@indiana.edu http://php.ucs.indiana.edu/~hazen/ Ham Radio wb9tlh@arrl.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Carter [SMTP:rich.carter@windriver.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 4:39 PM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Subject: [htaprs] RE: Controlling msgs on D700 with a PC ? > > It sounds like you are thinking along the same lines that I am. I'd like > to > use the TM-D700 in APRS mode, but have the ability to connect an external > terminal for displaying, managing, and sending messages. I have not been > able to determine how and if this can be done. I suspect that it can't be > done. This implies that the serial port has no function when in APRS > mode; > a pitty! > > There are a number of reasons that one would want to operate in this > fashion. My main reason is to avoid using a big notebook in my car. My > PDA > is not a Palm-Pilot. A second reason is to avoid conflicts with my serial > port. > > Anyone out there have any suggestions? > > Rich Carter - KE1EV > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org > [mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Karl G6ODT > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 4:09 PM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Subject: [htaprs] Controlling msgs on D700 with a PC ? > > > Does anybody know if there are any commands that I can use > with a PC control program for the TM-D700 to get the number > of stored messages and to delete them ? > > I can display incomming messages to the station callsign of the > sending station and can display the messages as I send them from > the program but can't find away of finding the number in the memory > and removing them. > Also noticed that the AMSG command while it'll show both out going > and in comming messages doesn't show the REJ message that the > radio sends to the other station when the memory becomes full. > > One other thing is there any way of getting the packet path of the > incomming message so the path can be changed for the out-going > messages ? As a normal user of UI-View this is a useful way of reversing > the path back to the station. > > 73 Karl G6ODT > g6odt@yahoo.com > http://members.tripod.com/~g6odt/packet.html > http://backdoor.to/g6odt > > 24hr Digi 144.800 Relay,Wide,Irth,G6ODT > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rcarter@isi.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: hazen@indiana.edu > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 8 17:26:34 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA20083 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:26:30 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 18:26:10 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] RE: Small Pharos GPS and D-700A From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/8/00 2:01 PM, David Vrona at dave@vrona.com wrote: > At 05:33 AM 3/8/00 -0800, Paul Jacques wrote: > > >> This GPS runs on 3.5 to 5.5 VDC so what did you use to drop the >> 12VDC from your car battery? I would like to use the Pharos with my D7 but I >> am trying real hard to cut the amount of cables, connectors, etc. down to >> put together a truly portable , easy to carry around, GPS-HT combo. Too bad >> I can't power the GPS from the HT some how..... > > Here's a great suggestion (below) I received from KG4ALG. > > This worked like a dream. I bought the regulator and a tiny project box > with included PC board at Radio Shack. Wired it up in about 30 minutes and > it's been working great. I too was tired of using a Garmin handheld in the > car due to all of the cables and connectors > > I originally wanted to power the GPS from my D-700 but soon gave up on > that. I have a D7 as well but haven't tried to tackle that setup. This > GPS is small enough to velcro to the side of the D7. Perhaps you could use > a voltage regulator off the D7 battery???? I just got my D700 yesterday and had it up and running last night ... this afternoon I sat down and straightened out the kluge of wiring (my old 'mobile' setup was a D7, Garmin II+, and a brick, sharing console sapve with TM261A , two antennas, etc .... aaaarrrggghhhh!!!!!). What I did was terminate the Garmin data cord in a DB9 male with the datawires to 2, 3 and 5, and power to pin 9. I then made a short cable with the Mouser cord with the 2.5 mm plug set to 2, 3, and 5 of a DB9 Female, and a piece of red/black 18 ga zip cord to pins 9 and 5. I then carefully tapped the heavy red/black power wires from the D700 just above the two prong power connector. I put an in-line .5 amp 3AG fuse/holder in that line too. Now I just have a simple plug in for the GPS, one wire. I am also running the entire power for the GPS and D700 through a Radio Shack 20 amp automotive interference filter (I had had it in place for the D7 and figured it can't hurt the D700). -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "Fate favors the prepared mind." (from "Under Siege 3") --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 8 22:40:17 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA29603 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:40:16 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 23:38:43 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] RE: Controlling msgs on D700 with a PC ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Hazen, Dwight L wrote: > A small keyboard to send messages from the D700 (hey even the D7) is > needed. How about this idea, A key (as in cw) It is actually very easy to do with a PIC chip and a DTMF encoder. Just convert the keyboard characters to Touch tones (thats how the letters you enter already on the Mic Key pad get into the radio already...) I posted this a month ago, so I hope someone is working on it... bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 9 07:56:01 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA28995 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 07:56:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Hazen, Dwight L" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS , "Naab, John W" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Controlling msgs on D700 with a PC ? Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 08:54:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB6403556715@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bob, I hope so also, I have my soldering iron and check book ready! I really like the idea of a ASCII keyboard or cw key as the input device. I know that the bicycle mobile people have a way to special way to send messages while on the road. I think they use two push buttons on the handle bars. Dwight Dwight L. Hazen, Indiana University, UITS Bloomington, In. 47408-7378 812-855-5367 hazen@indiana.edu http://php.ucs.indiana.edu/~hazen/ Ham Radio wb9tlh@arrl.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Bruninga [SMTP:bruninga@nadn.navy.mil] > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 11:39 PM > To: Hazen, Dwight L > Cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Subject: Re: [htaprs] RE: Controlling msgs on D700 with a PC ? > > On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Hazen, Dwight L wrote: > > > A small keyboard to send messages from the D700 (hey even the D7) is > > needed. How about this idea, A key (as in cw) > > It is actually very easy to do with a PIC chip and a DTMF encoder. Just > convert the keyboard characters to Touch tones (thats how the letters you > enter already on the Mic Key pad get into the radio already...) I posted > this a month ago, so I hope someone is working on it... > > bob > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 9 22:36:26 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA26514 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:36:25 -0600 (CST) From: ww0e@juno.com To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:24:41 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] CD/cable Message-ID: X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-6 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <20000309.223144.7294.0.ww0e@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Received my PG-4W cable and MCP-D7 CD from Kenwood today. There's an informative 20+ minute "movie" about the operations of the THD7 on the CD. Nice job Kenwood. Jerry - WW0E - ww0e@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 10 13:30:26 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA11186 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:30:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:29:52 Subject: [htaprs] Problem With D700 Software To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Fred Hatfield" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I have installed and re-installed the Kenwood D700 software for loading/unloading the D700 memories, but everytime I try to execute it all I ever get is an "invalid radio" message. I have checked all the connections, turned power off before connecting the radio and followed all the instructions as far as I know. Has anyone else had this problem? Fred Hatfield K8VDU New Orleans --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 10 13:48:01 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA11842 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:47:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Hazen, Dwight L" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Problem With D700 Software Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:45:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB6403556724@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Fred, Run a terminal program on your computer. Use the com port and cable to your radio. Put the tnc into packet mode. Set the terminal program to 9600 baud and correct com port. At this point you should see the CMD prompt from the tnc in the radio. If not ( and I suspect this is your problem) you have a com port problem on the computer . You can check to be sure the cable is not the problem by jumpering pins 2 and 3 on the com port and typing on the computer key board (it should echo). If not make sure the com port you are using is good. Dwight Dwight L. Hazen, Indiana University, UITS Bloomington, In. 47408-7378 812-855-5367 hazen@indiana.edu http://php.ucs.indiana.edu/~hazen/ Ham Radio wb9tlh@arrl.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Hatfield [SMTP:hatfield@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 8:30 AM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Subject: [htaprs] Problem With D700 Software > > I have installed and re-installed the Kenwood D700 software > for loading/unloading the D700 memories, but everytime I try > to execute it all I ever get is an "invalid radio" message. > > I have checked all the connections, turned power off before > connecting the radio and followed all the instructions as far > as I know. > > Has anyone else had this problem? > > Fred Hatfield K8VDU > New Orleans > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: hazen@indiana.edu > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 10 14:10:33 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA12846 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:10:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:9:59 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Problem With D700 Software To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Fred Hatfield" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I am really pleased! I posted my problem message about 2 p.m. and within ten minutes I had 3 replies! The problem turned out to be the D700 was in TNC mode when I was trying to access it. Once I turned off the TNC mode, it worked fine. Thanks to all you helpful guys -- this is a real impressive list.... Fred K8VDU --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 10 19:08:05 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA21547 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:08:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:7:41 Subject: [htaprs] The CD To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Morris Hays" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk A twenty minute Movie on the CD :**( I wish Kenwood would retroactively give the guys who supported them in the beginning at least the opportunity to get the CD for the asking. I'm sure most everyone already made the cables so they wouldn't have to send them. I have the literature but never downloaded the program, silly me. Kell KB1DZN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 11 00:16:23 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA07387 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 00:16:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 01:17:55 -0500 From: Adrian Brookes Reply-To: abrookes@sympatico.ca X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Controlling msgs on D700 with a PC ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38C9E513.91DB30B1@sympatico.ca> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I tried sending a msg tonight from my D700 with the address line having only EMAIL in it for internet access.. Worked - very impressive. How long a message can I send? Adrian --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 11 07:30:38 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA24534 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:30:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Jim Gill" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] RE: Controlling msgs on D700 with a PC ? Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:31:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002501bf8b5e$294779c0$0100a8c0@compaq> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk one line only... up to the maximum of 64 characters that the D700 supports for messages; and this 64 characters must include the email address at the beginning of the message. Jim N0RMO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Brookes" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 12:17 AM Subject: [htaprs] RE: Controlling msgs on D700 with a PC ? > I tried sending a msg tonight from my D700 with the address line > having only EMAIL in it for internet access.. > > Worked - very impressive. > > How long a message can I send? > > Adrian > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: jimgill@ix.netcom.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 11 12:07:04 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA02082 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:07:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:10:14 -0500 From: Adrian Brookes Reply-To: abrookes@sympatico.ca X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] MSGs to Internet & deleting MSGs on D7 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38CA8C06.D3198F2E@sympatico.ca> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thanks, I'll give that a try. I noticed the msg length in the D7 is considerably shorter. BTW - Has anyone figured out how to delete Messages in the D7 ???? Adrian --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 11 15:21:52 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA08099 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:21:51 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 21:20:16 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] RE: Controlling msgs on D700 with a PC ? From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > to send messages, no hate mail please. Even cw would be faster to send that > trying to deal with the Mic or keyboard when you are driving! weeeell I do have a small cw key that straps to my thigh - but somehow I can't see it catching on whilst actually driving... Voice recognition. Thats the way to go... Carl gw0tqm gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 11 16:35:12 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA10322 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:35:12 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 17:34:57 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Re: MSGs to Internet & deleting MSGs on D7 From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/11/00 1:10 PM, Adrian Brookes at abrookes@sympatico.ca wrote: > Thanks, I'll give that a try. > > I noticed the msg length in the D7 is considerably shorter. > > BTW - Has anyone figured out how to delete Messages in > the D7 ???? > > Adrian We really need a D7 and D700 FAQ - the answer to this question - asked by every single new D7 owner, I might add - is that _you cannot_ !!!!! they did fox that in the D700, you get 16 messages and you selectively delete them, on the D7 you get 10 and they simply scroll off. -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "If you can't believe what you read in comic books, what can you believe?" -- Bullwinkle J. Moose --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 11 22:57:54 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA26033 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:57:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 05:00:23 +0000 From: Dr Kevin Johnston X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] MCPD7 software (problems) X-Priority: 2 (High) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: seol.net.au X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kj_anaes@seol.net.au X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: htaprs@lists.tapr.org,vk5neb@seol.net.au,vk5bcb@seol.net.au X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: ppp09.seol.net.au [203.23.53.73] X-Info: South East On Line List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38CB2466.9D31DED6@seol.net.au> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk We now have a number of TH-D7A owners in the Mount Gambier area of South Australia. All are having problems with the MCP D7 programing software (version 0.01 beta) (1). Instructions from computer to enable AM mode in airband are ignored. Although AM mode selected form the handheld keyboard are correctly read by the computer. (2). Instructions from the computer to programme DTMF code memories are ignored and not uploaded to the handheld. Has anyone else seen this problem and/or found the solution? or is there a later version of the software? Many thanks de Kevin VK5KJ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 12 08:54:42 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA26379 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 08:54:40 -0600 (CST) From: ww0e@juno.com To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 08:42:37 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] GPS plug Message-ID: X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-5 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <20000312.084957.9678.1.ww0e@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk OK - I have the PG-4W cable for my THD7, all I need is the plug to for my Garmin GPS receiver, where's a good place to buy the just the plug (4 - pin) ? Thanks. Jerry - WW0E - ww0e@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 12 09:10:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA26864 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 09:10:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 10:13:40 -0500 From: Stan Horzepa Reply-To: stanzepa@mail2.nai.net Organization: WA1LOU X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS plug References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38CBB422.B3C36D6B@ct2.nai.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Try http://pfranc.com/projects/g45contr/g45_idx.htm That's where I get mine and I am a very satisfied customer. Stan, WA1LOU ww0e@juno.com wrote: > > OK - I have the PG-4W cable for my THD7, > all I need is the plug to for my Garmin GPS > receiver, where's a good place to buy the > just the plug (4 - pin) ? > Thanks. > Jerry - WW0E - ww0e@juno.com > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: stanzepa@mail2.nai.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 12 09:30:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA27493 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 09:30:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 07:31:08 -0800 Reply-To: carndt@slonet.org From: "Chris Arndt" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS plug List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <200003120731080980.11ACC6E8@smtp.in-con.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I second that. I've purchased 4 of them, and Larry's share(hard)ware concept seems to work very well for small items like this. (And he builds other cool stuff, too. Try to take the time to read about his funicular, and home made gas turbine.) Chris *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/12/00, at 7:12 AM, Stan Horzepa wrote: >Try http://pfranc.com/projects/g45contr/g45_idx.htm > >That's where I get mine and I am a very satisfied customer. > >Stan, WA1LOU > >ww0e@juno.com wrote: >> >> OK - I have the PG-4W cable for my THD7, >> all I need is the plug to for my Garmin GPS >> receiver, where's a good place to buy the >> just the plug (4 - pin) ? >> Thanks. >> Jerry - WW0E - ww0e@juno.com >> >> ________________________________________________________________ >> YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >> Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >> Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >> http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >> >> --- >> You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: stanzepa@mail2.nai.net >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: carndt@slonet.org >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 12 11:39:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA02402 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:39:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:39:33 -0500 From: "Edward A. Behl" Reply-To: ed@eabehl.com Organization: E A BEHL Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: MCPD7 software (problems) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38CBD654.156F@eabehl.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hey, Doc - I haven't tried the aircraft band presets idea or DTMF memories, but it wouldn't surprise me. Kenwood was fairly open that the software on their FTP site was a beta version, and all risks were the user's. The only way to get a later version is to buy the PG-4W kit with the CD-ROM. The beta is what it is, and it still makes programming the FM presets much easier than typing them in by hand. 73 -- Edward A. Behl - KG4ALG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 12 12:57:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA04655 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:57:39 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:57:13 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] D700 "LIST" labels???? From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk OK, I have been on the road with my D700 for five days ... one question I have is the labels in the "LIST" display. THD7, D700, FIXED, WEATHER, STATUS, GOOD/GGA, GOOD/RMC, MOVING, Mic-E - pretty much all self explanatory. ID - what does that mean? Why does a given station get GOOD/xxx and another simply get MOVING ??? What about moving D700/D7's I am sure they outnumber fixed position units of either type. I just don't get the subtleties. Anyone have any idea about what the logic is behind the labelling? -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." -- Samuel Adams --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 12 14:00:25 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA06529 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:00:24 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:59:51 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 "LIST" labels???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Brian B. Riley wrote: > OK, I have been on the road with my D700 for five days ... one question I > have is the labels in the "LIST" display. > > THD7, D700, FIXED, WEATHER, STATUS, GOOD/GGA, GOOD/RMC, MOVING, Mic-E - > pretty much all self explanatory. > > ID - what does that mean? AN ID packet > > Why does a given station get GOOD/xxx and another simply get MOVING ??? I think Kenwood chose "@" posits to call moving. I preferred that they actually confirm a SPEED before they call it moving.. But it didnt make it into their code... Lots of possibilities here. They could have shown WIND for stations with non-zero wind speed, otherwise shown WEATHER for weather stations. Lots of possibilities... bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 12 17:16:11 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA14260 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:16:10 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:15:10 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Marathon Lessons? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Did an APRS marathon today. Its all 26 miles on an old railroad paved bike trail. Cars can only access the trail at about a dozen crossings... THought you might be interested in seeing some thoughts and lessons... (Any comments here are *NOT* meant to criticicize, only to learn...? Great set of volunteers, they do great work. Read this for fun! and humor...(tongue in cheek) PLAN: No one ever asked for APRS... but the last week, I just sort of "volunteered"... With my THD7's what could be easier?.. So this is kind of an outsider's view... TRACKERS: I brought 3 THD7 trackers and enough duct tape to put them on the chase bicycles (remember the first time in 1993 when I did this with 3 full size MFJ TNC's and 50w radios on the bikes!) (In APRSdos hit FILE-REPLAY-RUNNERS to see this classic) NET CONTROL: I brought one THD7 and 4 old DOS laptops (with 2 conductor ZIP-cord connecting them all to the same THD7). Intending one for each voice radio operating position (and one for me). My plan was to set one laptop to autotrack the LEAD, one the TAIL and one whatever was of interest at the time. By doing it this way, there was always a zoomed-in view of the hotspots and no one had to jump around on the maps very much (which takes over 6 seconds on these old 8186's). And this way no one had to be trained... OPERATIONS: * The NET CONTROL Ops had said they would operate from the tailgate of a pickup and would have AC. But then at 6 AM decided to just operate out of their cars, and so no-need to set up for AC power. (Fortunately Everything of mine would last at least an hour or 2 until we could find the school janitor to unlock a window)... * Having invested 6 hours in preparations, I was still going to play with my toys, so I hoisted my 40' fiberglass fishing pole antenna and set up three laptops on the tailgate (with the trackers all at my feed). THus, I could see everything (with nothing moving), and hear nothing. Likewise, the voice operators in the cab of the truck could hear everything and see nothing. Interesting arrangment... (remember, I was just a come-as-you-are) Well, with the lead runner about 30% into the run, things started getting confusing. No one knew where the TAIL was, or where the "real" lead was (the Trail is not closed during this event. Any locals can still jog along this very popular Jogging trail. So you have 700 Marathon runners and probably that many other regulars).. I did learn of one VIP vehicle that was supposed to have a HAM in it to shadow a Race Official. So I Ductaped one THD7 and GPS to it. It promptely was driven a mile away and parked for the next 6 hours... They kept asking me where things were (My remaining 2 tackers were still in the bag at my feet and my laptops were surrounding me in the back entertaining myself just fine). Fortunately, I was keeping an estimated LEAD and TAIL being deadreckoned on the map and was of some use. Then a school kid showed up and he was fascinated with my laptop, so he squeezed into the cab with the laptop and now there was something to see. (I had 50 feet of zipcord for just this purpose)... Next the Ham with the Bicycle at mile mark 9 (After everyone had passed his position) decided he could fill in as tail-end charlie, and I dashed out there to show my expertise with duct tape. Great, now one real moving GPS object on the map... (and one in a parking lot)... Interest in the laptop display was growing in the front seat of the (sub compact, imported) pickup... Gosh.. it works... Then a D700 drove up and agreed to shadow the bicycle acting as a mobile RELAY through the north end of the course. Now things really picked up. As the bike and mobile relay moved through the "black hole" where none of the voice operators were ever able to communicate, (mile 18 to mile 23) they tracked the bike just fine.... Now they were impressed. And soon the voice net succumbed to the usual APRS back up comm channel as you heard things like..... REPORT: "This is mile mark 18, we have the lead runner in view!) NETCONTROL: "Yeah... we know..." REPORT" "This is mile mark 19, We have the lead runner (or at least its the first person we have seen with a number on his shirt)... NETCONTROL: "Yeah... we know..." etc... LESSONS: None really, all the voice ops did their usual fine job. There were no incidents, casualties or injuries. APRS was fun... But I guess two things might be worth mentioning..... 1) My idea of doing an event is to set up a NETCONTROL that the public can see. It should LOOK like radio. Look professional.. Have a SIGN. The public should be able to SEE that there is such as thing as HAM radio. Not just some guys sitting in their car... (Yes, sometimes you do want to put them in a room out of sight so they can concentrate on their JOB, but this was probably not one of those kinds of events)... 2) Two other Kenwoods did show up, but with no other bicycles to track and these systems being integrated into CARS (which could not go on the bike trail or anywhere near it) we never really could use them. The one D700 though was great as a mobile digi... (Remember I actively do *NOT* push APRS locally, since some would think it self-serving)... But we have done this particular Marathon at least 4 times now, since 1993, and all though you would think it should be getting easier with the new toys, it still seems that the other 25 volunteers that do these kinds of things in our club, still dont get excited about APRS at all.. Oh well.... At least I have fun.... :-) MORE DETAILS... Only if you like using OLD laptops: Yes, even though I now have a few 386/486 and/or color laptops, I still find that the old LCD CGA Zenith Laptops are the only thing you can see WELL in the sunshine... (I dont have an active crysal color laptop nor would I want to put one in the rain if I did...) I actually wanted to prove it to myself that they were still usable. By editing the APRSdos map of the marathon and eliminating everything outside of the immediate venue, I got the map-redraw down to about 6 seconds on the supersport and about 12 seconds on the 8088's. The night before, I found that Configuration of all the detials was Maddening at these slow speeds. Finally I quit and just configured my 486 Laptop to exactly the right setup (easy to do at that speed). THen just copied the CFIGxxx.APR file to the clunkers so that they booted up perfectly to the desired configuration. At the event, with the muiltiple views of multiple laptops, the delays were there, but quite tolerable. You could look at somethign else while waiting for one of the others to update... P.S. I typically will buy these when the get to $20 at hamfest, though I have paid as much as $50 for my first one back in 95... Oh yes, I did a MAP-LOCK command to make sure it never tried to reload any other maps (takes 40 seconds from the HD).... NOTE! If your EVENT ALL FITS ON ONE MAP, you dont even need a hard drive! Once you load the map from the Floppy, and MAP-LOCK it, APRSdos will not need anymore files and so will run just as fast on a FLOPPY only system as on one with a HD. So using old-slow laptops even with out a HD is entirely possible.... We still do it on the sail boats at the naval academy every summer with only 720K floppies, since they only draw 250 ma 24 hours a day... (we dont do this because we like it, but becuse they wont buy us anything else. We have 18 of them!) de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 12 17:19:11 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA14378 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:19:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:18:41 Subject: [htaprs] SMA/BNC with pigtail? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Jack Coster" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Someone had information about the SMA to BNC adapter that had a cable pitail connection between the adapters to reduce possible damage to the antenna connection on the board. As I recall, these were from Radio Shack. My RS can't find them, and there is no reference on RS's online catalog. Does someone have catalog numbers or an alternate source for this item? Thanks., Jack, WF8X --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 12 21:25:46 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA20889 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:25:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:25:32 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Horst To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA/BNC with pigtail? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I got SMA to UHF at D&L Antenna Supply. See: http://www.wavehunter.com/consav.htm This is their "Connector Saver" which is an SMA to UHF with a couple feet of RG174 between. Looks like they have other connector combinations too. --Eric On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Jack Coster wrote: > Someone had information about the SMA to BNC adapter that > had a cable pitail connection between the adapters to reduce > possible damage to the antenna connection on the board. As I > recall, these were from Radio Shack. My RS can't find them, and > there is no reference on RS's online catalog. > Does someone have catalog numbers or an alternate source for this > item? > Thanks., > Jack, WF8X > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: erich@cac.washington.edu > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 12 21:40:21 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA21169 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:40:20 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:27:39 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] LOST THD7 Recovered..!? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well, not really, but it could have been... Here is the scenario... After todays marathon, After I had cut the duct tape and removed the THD7/GPS from the chase bicycle. I had a few more minutes and decided to drive down an unmapped road and take some GPS readings so I could add it to the map for next year.... Done... Tonight, 8 hours later, I decided to replay what my home station had captured during the day. Everything was there, but then there on the last file was the strangest thing. I could see where My VAN had merged with the tail bike, where I removed the system, and where I then proceeded up the obscure road.. Strangest thing... The TAIL bicycle must have followed me. I didnt think he lived up that way. Checked it out, and no, he lived the other way. Hummh... what was I seeing? I had removed the THD7/GPS from his bike, piled them in the car and had even disconnected his handheld GPS so that I could put it in a bag to take back to work. But Now I remember that when I got home, I found his THD7 (placed inside an aluminum ZERO case) had been left on.. Silly me! Vicinity Tracking! My van had its D700 set with UIDIGI ON and set to RELAY (to help out along the course). SO when I placed the THD7 in the car, with NO GPS, it reverted to 0000 Positions. And of course, APRSdos will then attempt to Vicinity Track that signal to the nearest DIGI. WHich was my van! Thus, the THD7 hidden inside an aluminum suitcase inside my van, with no GPS was appearing to follow behind my car in the history file.... Interesting... Now extend this to a lost KID, or stolen suitcase, OR whatever... Remember, EVERY recent KPC-3 or D700 on the planet has UIDIGI Callsign substitution BUILT IN. Thus anything that is transmitting any kind of packet, that passes by any of these radios can be traced to that location. Now, here is the cheap-plug (yes I do have a conflict of interest here) But here is how small you can make such a (non-GPS) tracking device... with ANY TNC... MIM Module. (or any TNC) Generates AX.25 packet 10 mW Key Chain 433 MHz XMTR ($24) 9v Battery. Size: about twice the size of the battery itself Life: about 48 hours. Cost: about $100 (Less in quantities) For the next marathon, rather than having mobiles, you could almost put these trackers on a few runners and then put D700's along the route and you would see these runners get plotted everytime they passed a checkpoint! Use one of the tiny 12v key chain batteries and make it HALF as big. You see why I get excited about vicinity tracking! de WB4APR, Bob Oh, by the way, the "vicinity" is variable. If the packet contains a number in braces "{###}" APRSdos will plot the vicinity plot within that number of 100's of feet to the nearest digi. Or by default, witihn 1 mile if no ### is given... By setting # to 1, then, was how I was going to track people indoors at Dayton within 100 feet of each room that had a BOX-N digi in it (a deaf digi that would only hear to 200 feet).... but that's another story... Wow, this year at dayton all we need is 7 D700's in the seven halls at Dayton to track everyone indoors! But thats another story... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 13 06:40:58 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA25098 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:40:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Dale Huguley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Tweeks to WXSVR Output Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:39:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000a01bf8ce9$35aa8720$6c994d0c@dale-s-home> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi All- I finally joined the D700a club and have been putting it through its paces. Had some surprises with how it reacts to output from my wx parser. I had intended for the packets that contain the area data that lights up counties/zones not to show up on the d7/d700 - would not be easily read. However I ended up adding the full name of the county or counties at the end of the packet and It works very well. In order to do this I had to go to a fixed 6 character format for the type of watch or warning so: TORNDO = Tornado SVRTSM = Severe Thunderstorm FFLOOD = Flash Flood MARINE = Special Marine This is set so that a warning for one or two counties will have the full name or names - more than that won't fit --so no names. Now there are two levels of information- at the county level and (if it can be parsed) a more specific place which will display on a mobile/ht rig. Examples: GRBSVR>SKYW:NWS-WARN :090110z,SVRTSM,WI_C073, MARATHON COUNTY {90LAA GRBSVR>APRS:NWS-WARN :SVR OVER MARSHFIELD {90LAC GRBSVR>SKYW:NWS-WARN :090135z,SVRTSM,WI_C115, SHAWANO COUNTY {90mAA GRBSVR>APRS:NWS-WARN :SVR mov NE @30 15 SW of SHAWANO {90mAC GRBSVR>SKYW:NWS-WARN :090055z,SVRTSM,WI_C135, WAUPACA COUNTY {90OAA GRBSVR>APRS:NWS-WARN :SVR mov NE @30 15 NE of WAUPACA NEAR SYMCO {90OAC GRBSVR>SKYW:NWS-WARN :090140z,SVRTSM,WI_C087, OUTAGAMIE COUNTY {90rAA GRBSVR>APRS:NWS-WARN :SVR mov NE @30 10 W of APPLETON NEAR DALE {90rAC GRBSVR>SKYW:NWS-WARN :090045z,SVRTSM,WI_C097,WI_C137,WI_C141, {902AA GRBSVR>APRS:NWS-WARN :SVR MONTELLO TO BABCOCK AND NEILLSVILLE {902AC GRBSVR>SKYW:NWS-WARN :090005z,SVRTSM,WI_C097,WI_C137, PORTAGE & WAUSHARA COUNTIES {8NLAA GRBSVR>APRS:NWS-WARN :SVR mov NE @30 05 SW of PLAINFIELD {8NLAC Winaprs seems to ignore the county names (they are not in the SS_C001 format and also have a leading space.) On the D700a it is VERY clear for what county the warning is for. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 13 10:32:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA02978 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:32:43 -0600 (CST) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:42:22 MST Subject: [htaprs] Re: Marathon Lessons? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-8 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Jim Baremore List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <20000313.092956.-293331.3.K5QQ@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi Bob What a neat writeup. I really enjoyed it as well as put a few things into my 'smoking pipe' to think about. Keep up the good work. Jim Baremore K5QQ ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 13 12:34:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA07722 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:34:21 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] D700 digital noise problem Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:34:09 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have twice received bad signal reports on my D700 tranceiver. Both times, there appeared to be "digital" noise in my voice transmission. The TNC was turned-off both times. Once it occurred on the 2m band, the second time on the 440 band. I didn't hear the problem, but it was described to me as sounding like the TNC was transmitting. I have not been able to recreate the problem. I can't send it back for repair if I can't recreate the problem. My suspicion is that it has something to do with the control channel. Has anyone else experienced similar problems. Any ideas? Rich Carter - KE1EV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 13 13:20:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA09683 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:20:33 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:17:33 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Marathon Lessons? From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Did an APRS marathon today. Its all 26 miles on an old railroad paved Marathon? Is that a euphemism for buying six dozen THD7 !! :) Interesting account Bob. If I tried such a thing half the connectors would go open circuit and all the laptop batteries would fail - but it does show the usefulness of APRS - and how it might be applied to say a mobile rally talk in too. Your other bit on vicinity tracking is also fascinating. People dont NEED a gps to take part in mobile experimentation at all. Just a TNC and tx. Carl gw0tqm gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 13 17:24:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA19653 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:24:15 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:23:05 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/13/00 1:34 PM, Richard Carter at rich.carter@windriver.com wrote: > I have twice received bad signal reports on my D700 tranceiver. Both times, > there appeared to be "digital" noise in my voice transmission. The TNC was > turned-off both times. Once it occurred on the 2m band, the second time on > the 440 band. I didn't hear the problem, but it was described to me as > sounding like the TNC was transmitting. I have not been able to recreate > the problem. I can't send it back for repair if I can't recreate the > problem. My suspicion is that it has something to do with the control > channel. > > Has anyone else experienced similar problems. Any ideas? > > > Rich Carter - KE1EV I have had a comment from one person that they thought they heard some digital "in the background' at the beginning of when I came back from 'dropping out' (APRS side A takes precedence over the voice side B if your are talking when it wants to transmit) in the middle of a transmission. -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "The ultimate consequence of protecting men from the results of their own folly is to fill the world with fools." -- Herbert Spencer --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 13 21:22:25 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA27677 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:22:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:22:7 Subject: [htaprs] Re: MCPD7 software (problems) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Thomas E. Hatton" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Doc, I spoke to one of the Kenwood reps about the free ware last spring at Dayton when I bought my D7A. He wanrned me that this bug was in the beta version. 73 Tom Ke4PCV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 13 21:25:30 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA27783 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:25:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:25:8 Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA/BNC with pigtail? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Thomas E. Hatton" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Jack, I use a small pice of semi-rigid with SMA Connectors on both ends I bought at a ham fest last summer. I bend it up and put the ruber duck on it for hand held operation. When in the truck, I bend it down to hook up to my external antenna. the semi rigid clips under the belt clip and takes the stress off the SMA connector in the radio. You should check the semi-rigid to see that it is 50 ohms and works at the frequenies you want to use. I have access to an impedance analizer at work and checked my piece at lunch one day. ;-) 73 Tom Ke4PCV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 13 23:05:42 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA01371 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:05:38 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:07:02 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/13/00 5:23 PM, Brian B. Riley at brianbr@macconnect.com wrote: > background' at the beginning of when I came back from > 'dropping out' (APRS side A takes precedence over the voice side B if your > are talking when it wants to transmit) in the middle of a transmission. That's incorrect. If you are transmitting on side B, side A on APRS will WAIT until you release the microphone in order to transmit. I watch it happen nearly every day. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 13 23:43:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA04220 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:43:55 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:41:50 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/14/00 12:07 AM, Jon Ogden at jono@enteract.com wrote: > on 3/13/00 5:23 PM, Brian B. Riley at brianbr@macconnect.com wrote: > >> background' at the beginning of when I came back from >> 'dropping out' (APRS side A takes precedence over the voice side B if your >> are talking when it wants to transmit) in the middle of a transmission. > > That's incorrect. If you are transmitting on side B, side A on APRS will > WAIT until you release the microphone in order to transmit. I watch it > happen nearly every day. > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > hmmm, well I thought that that was the way it should be, but what else explains the dropouts I have heard and had reported. Aside from this it works great. -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "Give me twenty-six lead soldiers and I will conquer the world" -- Karl Marx --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 06:24:11 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA27781 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:24:10 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:25:36 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/13/00 11:41 PM, Brian B. Riley at brianbr@macconnect.com wrote: > hmmm, well I thought that that was the way it should be, but what else > explains the dropouts I have heard and had reported. Aside from this it > works great. Well, the dropouts you have HEARD are different. If you are listening on band B and have the DCD sense set up for band A only, the APRS side WILL transmit when you are receiving a signal on band B. If you put DCD sense on both bands, it won't transmit unless both bands are quiet. I have DCD sense on for band A only. That way if my local repeater is tied up with guys having a rag chew, I'll still transmit packets. The dropouts I get when I am in QSO with someone are short enough that it doesn't really bother me. What I don't understand is why it has to drop out. I can transmit on band B on voice and band A still receives fine. The radio is capable of full duplex operation. Must be something to do with the TNC or what not. Now, as for why others might hear you drop out, I know that one problem I have is with keeping the mic button pressed. For whatever reason, due to size or whatever, I have a hard time sometimes keeping the D700's mic button pressed. Seems like it is fairly sensitive to pressure and if you don't have it held down firmly, you'll stop transmitting. At least that's what happens to me. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 06:34:08 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA28075 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:34:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Todd Ellis" From: "Todd Ellis" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] D700 mic audio gain adjustments? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:33:56 -0500 Organization: Booth & Associates MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF8D87.A80897A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <006c01bf8db1$9121c320$2502a8c0@boothassoc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF8D87.A80897A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone have a chance to adjust the mic audio level on the D700? I'm = afraid to poke around with the mic gain (wherever it is, not mentioned = in the manual at all) since I have seen several other radios from other = manufacturers use a single gain pot for all audio, including CTCSS (and = in this case, data?). Any input would be appreciated by this chronic = mic-mumbler. Todd Ellis, N2XL ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF8D87.A80897A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone have a chance to adjust the mic = audio level=20 on the D700?  I'm afraid to poke around with the mic gain (wherever = it is,=20 not mentioned in the manual at all) since I have seen several other = radios from=20 other manufacturers use a single gain pot for all audio, = including CTCSS=20 (and in this case, data?).  Any input would be appreciated by this = chronic=20 mic-mumbler.
 
Todd Ellis,=20 N2XL
------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF8D87.A80897A0-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 06:46:21 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA28282 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:46:20 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:47:42 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 mic audio gain adjustments? From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/14/00 6:33 AM, Todd Ellis at ellistr@booth-assoc.com wrote: > Anyone have a chance to adjust the mic audio level on the D700? I'm afraid to > poke around with the mic gain (wherever it is, not mentioned in the manual at > all) since I have seen several other radios from other manufacturers use a > single gain pot for all audio, including CTCSS (and in this case, data?). Any > input would be appreciated by this chronic mic-mumbler. > Why do you need to tweak it? ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 07:01:04 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA28690 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:01:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Todd Ellis" From: "Todd Ellis" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 mic audio gain adjustments? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:00:27 -0500 Organization: Booth & Associates MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <008201bf8db5$459edf60$2502a8c0@boothassoc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Because the mic audio is low. I have to be right up on the mic speaking loudly and clearly in order to be heard and understood well. Again, any insight on adjustments before I start tweaking? Todd Ellis, N2XL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Ogden" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 7:47 AM Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 mic audio gain adjustments? > on 3/14/00 6:33 AM, Todd Ellis at ellistr@booth-assoc.com wrote: > > > Anyone have a chance to adjust the mic audio level on the D700? I'm afraid to > > poke around with the mic gain (wherever it is, not mentioned in the manual at > > all) since I have seen several other radios from other manufacturers use a > > single gain pot for all audio, including CTCSS (and in this case, data?). Any > > input would be appreciated by this chronic mic-mumbler. > > > > Why do you need to tweak it? > > ------------------------------------- > Jon Ogden > KE9NA > > Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA > > http://www.qsl.net/ke9na > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tellis6@bellsouth.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 07:23:45 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA29695 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:23:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Mike Cox" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 mic audio gain adjustments? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:07:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <024301bf8db6$3ac645a0$f5630418@okcds1.ok.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Todd, I get the same comments about my D700 about the audio being quite low compared to other stations... > Because the mic audio is low. I have to be right up on the mic speaking > loudly and clearly in order to be heard and understood well. > > Again, any insight on adjustments before I start tweaking? > > Todd Ellis, N2XL > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Ogden" > To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 7:47 AM > Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 mic audio gain adjustments? > > > > on 3/14/00 6:33 AM, Todd Ellis at ellistr@booth-assoc.com wrote: > > > > > Anyone have a chance to adjust the mic audio level on the D700? I'm > afraid to > > > poke around with the mic gain (wherever it is, not mentioned in the > manual at > > > all) since I have seen several other radios from other manufacturers use > a > > > single gain pot for all audio, including CTCSS (and in this case, > data?). Any > > > input would be appreciated by this chronic mic-mumbler. > > > > > > > Why do you need to tweak it? > > > > ------------------------------------- > > Jon Ogden > > KE9NA > > > > Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA > > > > http://www.qsl.net/ke9na > > > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tellis6@bellsouth.net > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: ki5df@home.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 07:46:59 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA00415 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:46:57 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:46:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The problem I reported occurs when the TNC is supposed to be turned off. Both channels are in voice mode. It is not just at the beginning or end of the transmission. It is during the entire transmission interval. I'm getting suspicios that I may have accidently pressed the control button. I don't really know what this does. I think it has something to do with skycommand, which I can't play with unless I buy a second radio (ouch!). I guess nobody else has had the same problem. I have no problems with my microphone key or audio level. It sounds like a problem with your mic. Thanks for comments Rich Carter - KE1EV -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Jon Ogden Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 12:07 AM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem on 3/13/00 5:23 PM, Brian B. Riley at brianbr@macconnect.com wrote: > background' at the beginning of when I came back from > 'dropping out' (APRS side A takes precedence over the voice side B if your > are talking when it wants to transmit) in the middle of a transmission. That's incorrect. If you are transmitting on side B, side A on APRS will WAIT until you release the microphone in order to transmit. I watch it happen nearly every day. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rcarter@isi.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 08:01:45 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA00946 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:01:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Todd Ellis" From: "Todd Ellis" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:01:12 -0500 Organization: Booth & Associates MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00c701bf8dbd$c1cc72c0$2502a8c0@boothassoc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk There is no problem with my mic; others on this list are now also voicing their concern about the audio level too. Please don't be so quick to eliminate the problem as a bad mic - it works fine, just the audio is a bit low. Again, anyone have any insight on mic audio adjustments? Todd Ellis, N2XL > I have no problems with my microphone key or audio level. It sounds like a > problem with your mic. > > Thanks for comments > Rich Carter - KE1EV > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 08:17:07 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA01562 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:17:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Hazen, Dwight L" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:15:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB6403556732@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Jon, Here is the problem I see with my D700, no one answered this (not even Kenwood) when I sent it out on 2/14/00. I have my tnc on the "B" radio so the problem seems to be an audio switching bug. "A" you get data "B" you get dead air. Notice I get dead air not data. Kenwood, Kenwood please read and test this out. from message sent 2/14/00 I hate to report that I have discovered a problem with my D700. Here is the failure mode: The APRS beacon is transmitting on the "B" radio. At the same time I key the Mic to talk on the "A" radio, At this point all is well the packet data goes out the "B" radio just fine. When it is finished transmitting the "A" transmitter keys up (I still have the Mic key down) and I am talking into the Mic. Users on the repeater tell me that all they heard was a dead carrier. I have to wait until the transmitter is done on the "B" side then key the "A" side to be heard. When you are driving it is not possible to look at the radio to see if the "B" transmitter is active, so many times I transmit dead air. Any one else see this problem . Dwight Dwight L. Hazen, Indiana University, UITS Bloomington, In. 47408-7378 812-855-5367 hazen@indiana.edu http://php.ucs.indiana.edu/~hazen/ Ham Radio wb9tlh@arrl.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Ogden [SMTP:jono@enteract.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 12:07 AM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem > > on 3/13/00 5:23 PM, Brian B. Riley at brianbr@macconnect.com wrote: > > > background' at the beginning of when I came back from > > 'dropping out' (APRS side A takes precedence over the voice side B if > your > > are talking when it wants to transmit) in the middle of a transmission. > > That's incorrect. If you are transmitting on side B, side A on APRS will > WAIT until you release the microphone in order to transmit. I watch it > happen nearly every day. > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > > ------------------------------------- > Jon Ogden > KE9NA > > Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA > > http://www.qsl.net/ke9na > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: hazen@indiana.edu > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 08:45:54 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA02395 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:45:54 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:45:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is not the same problem that I've encountered. Are both of your channels transmitting on the same band? Rich Carter - KE1EV -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Hazen, Dwight L Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 9:15 AM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem Jon, Here is the problem I see with my D700, no one answered this (not even Kenwood) when I sent it out on 2/14/00. I have my tnc on the "B" radio so the problem seems to be an audio switching bug. "A" you get data "B" you get dead air. Notice I get dead air not data. Kenwood, Kenwood please read and test this out. from message sent 2/14/00 I hate to report that I have discovered a problem with my D700. Here is the failure mode: The APRS beacon is transmitting on the "B" radio. At the same time I key the Mic to talk on the "A" radio, At this point all is well the packet data goes out the "B" radio just fine. When it is finished transmitting the "A" transmitter keys up (I still have the Mic key down) and I am talking into the Mic. Users on the repeater tell me that all they heard was a dead carrier. I have to wait until the transmitter is done on the "B" side then key the "A" side to be heard. When you are driving it is not possible to look at the radio to see if the "B" transmitter is active, so many times I transmit dead air. Any one else see this problem . Dwight Dwight L. Hazen, Indiana University, UITS Bloomington, In. 47408-7378 812-855-5367 hazen@indiana.edu http://php.ucs.indiana.edu/~hazen/ Ham Radio wb9tlh@arrl.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Ogden [SMTP:jono@enteract.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 12:07 AM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem > > on 3/13/00 5:23 PM, Brian B. Riley at brianbr@macconnect.com wrote: > > > background' at the beginning of when I came back from > > 'dropping out' (APRS side A takes precedence over the voice side B if > your > > are talking when it wants to transmit) in the middle of a transmission. > > That's incorrect. If you are transmitting on side B, side A on APRS will > WAIT until you release the microphone in order to transmit. I watch it > happen nearly every day. > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > > ------------------------------------- > Jon Ogden > KE9NA > > Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA > > http://www.qsl.net/ke9na > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: hazen@indiana.edu > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rcarter@isi.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 08:52:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA02680 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:52:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Hazen, Dwight L" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:48:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB6403556734@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Richard, Yes, both transmitters are on the same band. "A" is 146.640 repeater and "B" is 144.39 APRS. Dwight L. Hazen, Indiana University, UITS Bloomington, In. 47408-7378 812-855-5367 hazen@indiana.edu http://php.ucs.indiana.edu/~hazen/ Ham Radio wb9tlh@arrl.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Carter [SMTP:rich.carter@windriver.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 9:46 AM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem > > This is not the same problem that I've encountered. Are both of your > channels transmitting on the same band? > > Rich Carter - KE1EV > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org > [mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Hazen, Dwight L > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 9:15 AM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem > > > Jon, > > Here is the problem I see with my D700, no one answered this (not even > Kenwood) when I sent it out on 2/14/00. I have my tnc on the "B" radio so > the problem seems to be an audio switching bug. "A" you get data "B" you > get > dead air. Notice I get dead air not data. Kenwood, Kenwood please read and > test this out. > > from message sent 2/14/00 > > I hate to report that I have discovered a problem with my D700. > > Here is the failure mode: > > The APRS beacon is transmitting on the "B" radio. At the same time I > key > the Mic to talk on the "A" radio, At this point all is well the packet > data > goes out the "B" radio just fine. When it is finished transmitting the "A" > transmitter keys up (I still have the Mic key down) and I am talking into > the Mic. Users on the repeater tell me that all they heard was a dead > carrier. I have to wait until the transmitter is done on the "B" side then > key the "A" side to be heard. When you are driving it is not possible to > look at the radio to see if the "B" transmitter is active, so many times I > transmit dead air. > > Any one else see this problem . > > > Dwight > . --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 18:31:05 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA25310 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:31:04 -0600 (CST) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org, nmhotair@AOL.COM, harris@nmgl.com, plchoc@AOL.COM Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:05:40 MST Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-4,6-13,19-20,24-29 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Jim Baremore List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <20000314.172922.-204553.1.K5QQ@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:34:09 -0500 "Richard Carter" writes: > I have twice received bad signal reports on my D700 tranceiver. Both > times, there appeared to be "digital" noise in my voice transmission. The > TNC was turned-off both times. Snip > Has anyone else experienced similar problems. Any ideas? Hi Rick There are only a few of the 700's here in Albuquerque and two of them I have heard with a similar problem. It's almost the first cycle of a sweeping siren sound. It's a tone that sweeps up in frequency every time the rig is keyed untill it gets warmed up a bit. Neither of them were in a packet mode at the time but were being used as conventional dual banders. It appears once the rig has transmitted a few times, the sound goes away. These sounds do NOT sound like a digital noise, at least the 1200 and 9600 baud packet noises I have heard. If you have ever heard an aircraft ELT signal, it's like the first cycle of one of those. Any other reports?? Jim Baremore K5QQ ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 18:33:09 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA25417 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:33:08 -0600 (CST) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:22:27 MST Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 Mike Button Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-7,9-13,19-22 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Jim Baremore List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <20000314.172922.-204553.4.K5QQ@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:25:36 -0600 Jon Ogden writes: > > Now, as for why others might hear you drop out, I know that one > problem I have is with keeping the mic button pressed. > For whatever reason, due to size or whatever, > I have a hard time sometimes keeping the D700's > mic button pressed. Seems like it is fairly sensitive to pressure and if you > don't have it held down firmly, you'll stop transmitting. Hi Jon and other D700 owners If you take the microphone apart you will see they have a 'sponge' between the mike button and the microswitch inside. It's really incredible!! I took the eraser off the end of a wooden pencil and trimmed it a bit and hot glued it into place. No more problems with talking and hearing the repeater courtesy beep go off while I'm still talking!! Jim Baremore K5QQ ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 19:13:01 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA26821 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:12:59 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:14:20 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/14/00 7:46 AM, Richard Carter at rich.carter@windriver.com wrote: > I'm > getting suspicios that I may have accidently pressed the control button. I > don't really know what this does. I think it has something to do with > skycommand, which I can't play with unless I buy a second radio (ouch!). I > guess nobody else has had the same problem. That's not it. The control button allows you to change the frequency and other parameters of the NON-PTT VFO. In other words if you are listening to one repeater on band A and want to change repeaters, functionality or whatever on band B while still being able to transmit on band A, you press the control button. This will allow you to transmit on A while messing with B. A nice feature if you are trying to work UO-14 or one of the other FM satellites with the D700. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 19:14:53 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA26860 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:14:51 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:14:28 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 mic audio gain adjustments? From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/14/00 8:00 AM, Todd Ellis at ellistr@booth-assoc.com wrote: > Because the mic audio is low. I have to be right up on the mic speaking > loudly and clearly in order to be heard and understood well. > > Again, any insight on adjustments before I start tweaking? > > Todd Ellis, N2XL that is funny, my audio is almost the opposite. a couple of locals have told me to climb back out of the mike, I am now holding the mike about 3-4 inches farther from my mouth than the very same mike (sans the letter markings) which I was using on my TM-261. -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "Frisbeetarianism, n.: The belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck." -- author unknown --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 19:15:42 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA26909 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:15:39 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:17:10 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/14/00 8:15 AM, Hazen, Dwight L at hazen@indiana.edu wrote: > The APRS beacon is transmitting on the "B" radio. At the same time I key > the Mic to talk on the "A" radio, At this point all is well the packet data > goes out the "B" radio just fine. When it is finished transmitting the "A" > transmitter keys up (I still have the Mic key down) and I am talking into > the Mic. Users on the repeater tell me that all they heard was a dead > carrier. I have to wait until the transmitter is done on the "B" side then > key the "A" side to be heard. When you are driving it is not possible to > look at the radio to see if the "B" transmitter is active, so many times I > transmit dead air. The radio should NOT transmit on one band if it is transmitting on the other. I'll test it out, but it cannot transmit from both VFOs simultaneously. It is a weird problem. Does the same thing happen if you reverse the bands (A data, B voice)?? 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 14 19:17:11 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA26989 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:17:08 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:16:27 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/14/00 9:15 AM, Hazen, Dwight L at hazen@indiana.edu wrote: > Jon, > > Here is the problem I see with my D700, no one answered this (not even > Kenwood) when I sent it out on 2/14/00. I have my tnc on the "B" radio so > the problem seems to be an audio switching bug. "A" you get data "B" you get > dead air. Notice I get dead air not data. Kenwood, Kenwood please read and > test this out. > > from message sent 2/14/00 > > I hate to report that I have discovered a problem with my D700. > > Here is the failure mode: > > The APRS beacon is transmitting on the "B" radio. At the same time I key > the Mic to talk on the "A" radio, At this point all is well the packet data > goes out the "B" radio just fine. When it is finished transmitting the "A" > transmitter keys up (I still have the Mic key down) and I am talking into > the Mic. Users on the repeater tell me that all they heard was a dead > carrier. I have to wait until the transmitter is done on the "B" side then > key the "A" side to be heard. When you are driving it is not possible to > look at the radio to see if the "B" transmitter is active, so many times I > transmit dead air. > > Any one else see this problem . so then why not use data on the "A" side ??? -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King Jr. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 15 07:45:57 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA04260 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:45:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Hazen, Dwight L" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 digital noise problem Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 08:44:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB6403556735@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk More information: Both transmitters are in the same band. "A" is 146.640 repeater "B" is 144.390 APRS "A" will NOT transmit until "B" is done sending data (as it should). But if you key the Mic while the "B" transmitter is sending data and hold the button down, when the "A" transmitter comes up you will have no audio. Why is this problem? When you are driving it is not possible to look at the radio to see if the "B" transmitter is active, so many times I transmit dead air. I have not tried revering the A and B voice data. I will try and do this at lunch today, The radio is out in the parking lot, WB9TLH-9 . Dwight Dwight L. Hazen, Indiana University, UITS Bloomington, In. 47408-7378 812-855-5367 hazen@indiana.edu http://php.ucs.indiana.edu/~hazen/ Ham Radio wb9tlh@arrl.net > on 3/14/00 8:15 AM, Hazen, Dwight L at hazen@indiana.edu wrote: > > > The APRS beacon is transmitting on the "B" radio. At the same time I key > > the Mic to talk on the "A" radio, At this point all is well the packet > data > > goes out the "B" radio just fine. When it is finished transmitting the > "A" > > transmitter keys up (I still have the Mic key down) and I am talking > into > > the Mic. Users on the repeater tell me that all they heard was a dead > > carrier. I have to wait until the transmitter is done on the "B" side > then > > key the "A" side to be heard. When you are driving it is not possible > to > > look at the radio to see if the "B" transmitter is active, so many times > I > > transmit dead air. > > The radio should NOT transmit on one band if it is transmitting on the > other. I'll test it out, but it cannot transmit from both VFOs > simultaneously. It is a weird problem. > > Does the same thing happen if you reverse the bands (A data, B voice)?? > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > ------------------------------------- > Jon Ogden > KE9NA > > Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA > > http://www.qsl.net/ke9na > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 15 15:17:26 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA21179 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:17:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:16:56 -0800 (PST) From: "Julian M. Frost" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 Mike Button In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Jim Baremore wrote: > If you take the microphone apart you will see they have a 'sponge' > between the mike button and the microswitch inside. It's really > incredible!! I took the eraser off the end of a wooden pencil and > trimmed it a bit and hot glued it into place. No more problems with > talking and hearing the repeater courtesy beep go off while I'm still > talking!! Other have just removed the spring and let the sponge do the job. It works too, but has a rather different feel. Another solution might be to just remove a coil of the spring so it is less forceful. I haven't tried that one yet. But to answer another question, yes, people frequently tell me my modulation is a little low. Most mobile rigs coming from Japan have their mic gain control set way high. It was explained to me once that the reason for this is that, in Japan, it is illegal to talk on a radio while driving, so everybody holds the microphone on their lap while talking! Don't know how true that is, but it's a good story! :-) Julian --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 15 18:06:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA27392 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:06:39 -0600 (CST) X-To: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Reply-To: From: "Dennis James" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] ICOM HEADSET W series HS-60 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:04:50 +1100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000301bf8edb$3f460a40$4e970ccb@dennis> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have a schematic or a description of what each coloured wire represents to the radio. The above is used for a Icom Handheld and i wish to use it for a Alinco. thanks Dennis VK2DOR Scone Australia QF57KX mailto:denniswj@hunterlink.net.au --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 15 18:06:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA27404 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:06:54 -0600 (CST) X-To: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Reply-To: From: "Dennis James" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Pocket APRS Maps Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:04:54 +1100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000401bf8edb$42270a20$4e970ccb@dennis> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I wonder if anyone has any maps for the above, or if there is away of making them. Dennis VK2DOR Scone Australia QF57KX mailto:denniswj@hunterlink.net.au --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 15 19:32:23 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA00460 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:32:23 -0600 (CST) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:48:38 MST Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 Mike Button Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-9,11,13-17,25-30 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Jim Baremore List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <20000315.175214.-349323.4.K5QQ@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:16:56 -0800 (PST) "Julian M. Frost" writes: > On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Jim Baremore wrote: > > > If you take the microphone apart you will see they have a 'sponge' > > between the mike button and the microswitch inside. > > Other have just removed the spring and let the sponge do the job. It > works too, but has a rather different feel. Another solution might be to > just remove a coil of the spring so it is less forceful. I haven't tried > that one yet. Hi Julian and the SIG If you look inside, at least in the several we currently have in Albuquerque, there is NO spring!! Only a sponge like material and so the end result is you can push the mike button to the stop, but the sponge gives way and the transmitter unkeys!! Only by releasing the button and letting the sponge return to it's uncompressed form can you get it to rekey the transmitter. Thus the use of a harder material, such as the pencil eraser, overcomes that problem and let's you talk more than a few seconds. C U all Jim Baremore K5QQ ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 15 21:21:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA03988 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:21:22 -0600 (CST) From: "Rob Wittner" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] APRS/CE Beta Release... Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:22:56 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk APRS/CE (APRS[tm] for Windows CE) v0.99.597 (Beta) has been posted to: ftp://ftp.tapr.org/aprssig/wince/ You'll see a file called APRS-CE.EXE in that directory. This is a Windows 95, 98, and NT/2000 .EXE that self-extracts and runs SETUP for APRS/CE. Just a reminder: this beta will expire on May 22, 2000. I'll have to have something newer out before Dayton. :-) Some important things: *** IMPORTANT THING #1 *** BEFORE YOU INSTALL THIS APP, BACK UP YOUR WINDOWS CE DEVICE!!! (PLEASE!) Sorry to shout, but if the install gets completely buggered, the only thing I'll be able to do for you if you didn't back up is sympathize with you. I've never seen or heard of anyone's machine (including my menagerie) getting hosed by this install, but I'd hate to have it happen to someone without a backup. I've installed the thing on my personal day-to-day Casio E-100, and my clean/fresh/hard-resetted IBM Z50, HP Jornada 420, and HP 320LX (upgraded to WinCE 2.0) and all worked great. I installed it on a colleague's Z50 (he's got tons of third-party software on there) again without incident. I've also received reports from early beta testers that all went OK on their machines as well. *** IMPORTANT THING #2 *** Some of you will go out there and go, "TWO MEGS! Jeez, how big is this thing?!" Relax, the only reason it's two megs is because there are ten separate builds in there: Handheld PC w/ Windows CE 2.0 SH3 (HP 320LX) Clamshell grayscale " MIPS Palm-size PC w/ Windows CE 2.01 SH3 Palm-size grayscale " MIPS (Casio E-11) Handheld PC Pro w/ Windows CE 2.1x SH3 (IBM Z50) Subnotebook and clamshell color " MIPS " SH4 " StrongARM (HP Jornada 820) Palm-size PC w/ Windows CE 2.11 SH3 (HP Jornada 420) Palm-size color " MIPS (Casio E-100) The two-meg file will sit on your PC, but only the files that are relevant to your CE box get copied down. For most installations, APRS/CE will only take up 350K-500K of storage space, *not* two megs. *** IMPORTANT THING #3 *** If you're not using ActiveSync 3.0 to connect with your CE box, go get it! Right now! It's free. I'll wait. :-) To get it, go to: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/ Choose Windows CE as the operating system and click "Find it!" I see two different ActiveSync 3.0's in the listing -- just to be safe, pick the bigger one. (I downloaded it and stuck it on a CD-RW long ago, so I don't remember which one I grabbed.) *** IMPORTANT THING #4 *** I would really, really, really appreciate it if: (1) You could go download my .EXE when it's convenient. (2) Let me know that you are downloading it. (3) Back up your CE box. (4) Attempt an installation. (5) Let me know how it went, *** especially if it didn't work! *** (6) Give me feedback on basic operation. (7) Let me know what features currently aren't there that you'd like to see. *** IMPORTANT THING #5 *** There are no maps included with this installation! (I felt that a two-meg download was big enough.) Feel free to use any Win/MacAPRS, pocketAPRS, or dosAPRS map and place it anywhere on the device, in any directory. (The startup routine searches the entire filesystem for maps. If you add maps while the program is running, use the File->Refresh Map List menu option to rebuild the map menu. You can also do this if you pop in a flash card with maps while APRS/CE is running.) *** IMPORTANT THING #6 *** (Last one!) If you find a bug, report it. Even if you think someone else has reported it, report it anyway. I will be tracking them all, but if I never hear about it, I can't fix it. Thanks in advance for all your support, and I hope that I am nearly finished with delivering something that folks will find useful. 73 -Rob KZ5RW Exhausted author of APRS/CE APRS is a trademark of Bob Bruninga. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 15 21:47:36 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA04685 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:47:34 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:46:28 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Mobile Satellites easy! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Left Brain/ Right Brain story... or stoopid me.... Since I began listening to the satellties with my D700, I have just left it on one of the downlinks so that if the satellite comes into view, I may per chance hear it. But rarely does this occur, and then only when I happen to take a look at APRStk before leaving in the morning or evening so that I remember when to take a listen... Tonight, after 3 months of this, I was driving home and looking at the front panel of the radio and thinking the chance of a satelltie in view right now is 1 in a million, so out of boredom, i thought, why dont I just switch back to 144.39 to see what is happening this evening.... No sooner had I done this then that KO23 popped up on my front panel! It was 2240 miles to the south with -8 KHz doppler. About that same time another D700 user that must have been mobile at the time SAW my D700 posit come on line and so he called me on the local repeater and asked if I was hearing KO23... I was dumbfounded. I never thought to just monitor 144.39 for the satellite passes SINCE IT IS MY HOME STATION RUNNING APRStk THAT IS PUTTING THEM THERE! Of course that is what I designed it to do! He was surprised at my surprise, since he said that that is how he has been listening to the satelites, by just waiting for them to appear on 144.39 and then QSYing... My APRS satellite objects even show you what freq to tune in! But somehow my brain never connected that fact that I TOO could use this data. But there as an APRS object on the front panel of my D700 was evverything I needed to know: 1) KO23 was in view (otherwise APRStk would not be transmitting it) (Thanks steve for making me kill them when not in view) 2) The TIME stamp showed me the object was less than a minute old 3) Ignoring its LAT/LONG, I could see that it was 2000 miles to the South 4) It showed the satellite's freq was 435.170 (so I could tune it in) 5) It showed me that the doppler was presently -9 KHz (so I could add 10) Wow, Why have I wasted 3 months over listening to a closed squelch on 435.125 hoping for a satellite to pass in view, when my home station was telling everyone including me (with only my D700) exactly when a satellite was in view! Wow, talk about a void between the right brain and left brain! I guess I was just so used to watching the APRStk map screen at home as my source of satellite data, I forgot that it looks GREAT and is so informative on the D700 display too.. Bottom line. If someone is running APRStk in your area, then you can cruise around with 144.39 playing APRS but when a satellite comes into view, you will see it and can QSY and not miss a thing. Wow, it works! Bob WB4APR --- You are currently subscribed to aprssat as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprssat-15095R@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 17 18:25:30 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA29740 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:25:27 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:24:21 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR APRS Satellite Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] New APRStk (08) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk THis new version of APRStk adds a new capability to convey to local mobiles with the THD7 or D700 when satellites are in view. Once every 10 minutes it can transmit a DX SPOT that will be captured on the DX list in the Kenwoods (or any version of APRS). This DX spot will contain a list of up to 5 satellites that will be in view in the next 80 minutes. The existing APRStk would only transmit Satellite Objects when they were actually in view, but it gave mobile users no "heads-up" that there may be a satellite soon to come in view. Now, just check your DX-LIST every now and then to see the schedule. Thus, THD7/D700 mobiles have no need for any satellite tracking software, yet they will be alerted on 144.39 whenever any workable mobile satellite comes into view (as long as someone in the area is runnning APRStk). The front panel will show them any Satellites in view, or the DX list will now always have the next 80 minute schedule! There are 7 satellites of interest (UO22, KO23, KO25, TO31, UO14, AO27, SO35). The last three are workable using FM voice and we are lobbying the AMSAT community to eventually turn on one of the PACSATS for APRS digipeating. In the meantime you can monitor their 9600 baud downlinks and start getting experience... APRStk runs in an APRSdos environment. If you dont have that, then download the whole thing in APRStk.zip. If you already have APRSdos, then all you need is ASTK-EXE.zip. Be sure to install it with PKUNZIP -d or WinZIP. Download from ftp://tapr.org/aprssig/dosstuff/APRSdos/astk-exe.zip NOTE: This is a lot of stuff packed into one program. It basically has 3 separate and distinct uses and some conflicts: 1) Use it with a THD7/D700 as an automated Satelite monitoring station to control your radio for listening to the 5 digital and 2 or 3 analog sats. 2) Use it as your home station with ANY radio/TNC on 144.39 as a way to keep an eye open for satellites and/or to UPLINK on 144.39 these satellites as OBJECTS to everyone in your area so they wont miss out on the satellite fun. (Run out to your car to work the pass with your D700). This base station operation also now sends out the once every 10 minute DX spot satellite schedule. 3) Use it as your APRS mobile Satellite Ground station when hooked up to a D700 (not a THD7 which cannot operate crossband 9600) for operations through any (yet to be determined) APRS digipeating PACSAT. CAUTION: If you try to operate #2 as an APRStk feed to your local area, do NOT use a THD7 or D700, since APRStk will be trying to do 2 things at once. When a TRACKED satellite comes into view, it will FIRST QSY the radio to listen to the satelite, so therefore it is NOT on 144.39 to be able to transmit the satelites as OBJECTS for others. I will fix this, but it will take some overhead, so for now, do one or the other but not both. If you must use a THD7/D700 in the role of an OBJECT uplink base-station then configure APRStk and tell it you are NOT using a THD7/D700. Just tell it you are using a TAPR TNC and then it will not try to tune the radio... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 17 18:46:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA00345 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:46:13 -0600 (CST) From: ww0e@juno.com To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:39:33 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] BCON Message-ID: X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-5 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <20000317.184054.9678.1.ww0e@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I had to reset the THD7, how do I get it back to xmit a beacon on startup? I've tried the instructions in the manual, I can't get BCON to appear on the screen... Thanks. Jerry - WW0E - ww0e@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 17 18:56:03 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA00519 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:56:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:56:35 -0600 From: Robbie Robertson X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: BCON References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D2D443.6656124A@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk If you don't have TNC/APRS turned on, it will never beacon Jerry... Robbie ww0e@juno.com wrote: > > I had to reset the THD7, > how do I get it back to xmit a beacon on startup? > I've tried the instructions in the manual, > I can't get BCON to appear on the screen... > Thanks. > Jerry - WW0E - ww0e@juno.com > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: mwrobertson@mediaone.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 17 23:34:04 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA10879 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:34:01 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 00:33:19 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] D7 / D700 KISS ??? From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Clayton's question about using the D7 with AGWPE prompts me to ask about he current status of the newer D7 firmware and KISS - does it work? How about KISS in the D700 does it work? -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "It would take an archimedean fulcrum to raise you to the level of total depravity" --Thomas E. Carney, ca. 1920 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 18 12:15:49 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA14439 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:15:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:07:23 -0800 From: BA Merrill X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] I don't see me. . . Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D3C5DA.EFCA062B@linkline.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I've setup my laptop/KPC3 running APRS and my icon is showing on the map. However, I get the usual msg "APRS did not see a digipeat of your last packet" -- I'm running as a new user. I've lost the previous thread as to how to fix this. Also, have my TH-D7 running stand alone and the laptop shows it in the heard list but no ICON or call shows on the map. The TH-D7 also does not show the laptop call in the heard list. I went out to the aprs.net and unless it takes a day or so to popup, I didn't see either one on that map. So what am I doing wrong. Question regarding the radio. . . While on battery power it started beeping and continuously reopening the TNC as long as the BCN was on. (yes, I've had it upgraded) Plugged in the transformer and it did the same til I put it on EL power. I'm under the impression (from the packet operation setup) that if the transformer is plugged in you can't tx on anything but EL. -- correct? Question regarding program. . . what function does the box at the top right hand of the screen have I'm running an older dos version (865) under win3.1 on a 486 laptop. . .should I download a newer version like winaprs with the 32bit drivers? If so, which files from the ftp site do I need? What is winaprs lite? and would that be better. Sorry for all the bandwidth but decided to learn how to use this stuff instead of letting it just sit around. . .I'm also going to Moab UT in mid April and my stuff is portable and have access to a GPS unit. Would like to be able to tx my location while out 4 wheeling. THANKS! for any assist/tutoring anybody can spare time to offer. 73 BettyAnn, KC6ING Riverside, CA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 18 13:25:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA16757 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:24:59 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:24:40 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: I don't see me. . . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, BA Merrill wrote: > I've setup my laptop/KPC3 running APRS and my icon is showing on the > map. However, I get the usual msg "APRS did not see a digipeat of your > last packet" -- I'm running as a new user. I've lost the previous > thread as to how to fix this. Nothing to fix, other than getting your antenna up higher or moving colser to a digi.. Or setting the correct path for that digi, etc... > Also, have my TH-D7 running stand alone and the laptop shows it in the > heard list but no ICON or call shows on the map. What is the position on the POSITIONS page? > The TH-D7 also does not show the laptop call in the heard list. Is the THD7 ON? Is it in APRS mode? is it on the samre frequency as the laptop? What do the packets look like? These might seem like stoopid questions, but you have given no hints as to what all you have invistigated nor details we can use to help... > Question regarding program. . . > what function does the box at the top right hand of the screen have See the README files. README\SCREEN.TXT and HELP.TXT Welcome to APRS! Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 18 15:27:29 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA20753 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:27:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:27:6 Subject: [htaprs] APRStk Satellite Frequency Tracking To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Fred Hatfield" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk After a lot of fooling around and experimenting I seem to have APRStk working with my D700. However, I have tried the suggestion of having APRS 144.390 at the top of the satellite list so that I still copy traffic in between satellite passes. The problem is that after a satellite pass, HBAUD remains at 9600 and the 144.390 traffic (1200) does not copy. I can go to O,C,T and tell the TNC to change HBAUD to 1200 by hand and things work great until the next satellite pass is finished and HBAUD remains at 9600 again. Occasionally, the frequency will sort of 'flip-flop' between the satellite and 144.390 during a long pass. Of course, the HBAUD remains at 9600 during that time so the local traffic doesn't copy -- but shouldn't the satellite frequency remain constant until the pass is finished? Fred K8VDU New Orleans --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 18 18:20:10 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA26373 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:20:07 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:18:20 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRStk Satellite Frequency Tracking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Fred Hatfield wrote: > After a lot of fooling around and experimenting I seem to > have APRStk working with my D700. However, I have tried the > suggestion of having APRS 144.390 at the top of the satellite > list so that I still copy traffic in between satellite passes. > > The problem is that after a satellite pass, HBAUD remains at > 9600 and the 144.390 traffic (1200) does not copy. Hummh. Works every time for me, but then I am using the D7, not the D700. I hope to get a D700 hooked up to APRStk, and maybe then I will see waht you are seeing. It sends out the 144.39 command. Maybe it is not taking because of a timng difference with the D700? > Occasionally, the frequency will sort of 'flip-flop' between > the satellite and 144.390 during a long pass. Of course, the > HBAUD remains at 9600 during that time so the local traffic > doesn't copy -- but shouldn't the satellite frequency remain > constant until the pass is finished? Yep, it should not flipflop. But sounds like it is trying to swtich some of the time. Hummh... bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 18 21:13:34 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA01630 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:13:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:03:22 -0800 From: BA Merrill X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: I don't see me. . . References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D4437A.3DE31B22@linkline.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bob Bruninga wrote: On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, BA Merrill wrote: > Nothing to fix, other than getting your antenna up higher or moving colser > to a digi.. Or setting the correct path for that digi, etc... > Thing that bothers me. . .the laptop radio is running 5w battery plugged into the charge and receiving the packets identically to the Kenwood. It is on a J-Pole on the roof of the house about 10' feet above chimney. The Kenwood is plugged into the transformer (and I have now switched to H power--that beep and opening TNC prob must have been low bat related) and is on the rubber ducky antenna and sitting in the window. > > Also, have my TH-D7 running stand alone and the laptop shows it in the > heard list but no ICON or call shows on the map. > What is the position on the POSITIONS page? > The same as the laptop -- yes, I have read your expl about the call signs from the Dayton Convention so I zoomed out and still didn't see two icons. I will try offsetting the TH-D7 as an experiment (by the way it is set N 33:57:00 W 117:25:00 and laptop is at 33:54:83N and 117:14:52W). > > The TH-D7 also does not show the laptop call in the heard list. > > Is the THD7 ON? YES > Is it in APRS mode? YES > is it on the samre frequency as the laptop? YES > What do the packets look like? Don't see any packets. . .I'm not showing up > for some reason but am on the heard list if I go back to low pwr > These might seem like stoopid questions, but you have given no hints as to > what all you have invistigated nor details we can use to help... > > > Question regarding program. . . > > what function does the box at the top right hand of the screen have > > See the README files. README\SCREEN.TXT and HELP.TXT > > Welcome to APRS! > > Bob > > Thanks!!! Hope I'm not being a pain. . . --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 19 14:16:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA17365 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 14:16:02 -0600 (CST) From: "Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: I don't see me. . . Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:46:46 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000001bf91cb$19297840$02000003@oemcomputer> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have not been following all the previous messages, but the power problem caught my eye. > -----Original Message----- > > > > The TH-D7 also does not show the laptop call in the heard list. > > > > Is the THD7 ON? YES > > Is it in APRS mode? YES > > is it on the same frequency as the laptop? YES > > What do the packets look like? Don't see any packets. . .I'm > not showing up > > for some reason but am on the heard list if I go back to low pwr > Are you running your radio off the supplied charger? If so, it does not put out enough power to transmit on high power. As the radio goes into transmit, it loads down the transformer/charger and the radio will probably beep do to a low voltage condition. This might explain why it works on low power since it probably does not overload your transformer/charger. You need a power supply capable of putting out at least 2 amps continuous to be able to use it for transmitting on an HT. Try running your radio on a fully charged battery not connected to your "power supply" and see if that corrects your problem. Herb, KB7UVC NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator www.nwaprs.org My Home Page: http://www.hctc.com/~gerhardt/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 19 19:26:21 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA28550 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:26:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:25:35 Subject: [htaprs] Charging the TH-D7a To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Morris Hays" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I only have the small wall charger that came with the unit and my question is how do I know when the battery is charged? I don't want to overcharge it and so try discharge it to near dead so I can put it on for a few hours without too much worry. If it isn't near total discharge though how do I gestimate how long to leave it on charge? If the only way is to get a better charger I would greatly appreciate advice as to which model would be best. Thanks for any help. Kell Hays KB1DZN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 19 19:44:18 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA29111 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:44:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 17:43:58 -0800 From: BA Merrill X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Charging the TH-D7a References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D5825E.D9119B9B@linkline.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk When I plugged the unit into the charger/transformer it quit beeping and re-opening the TNC on BCN. I then went to the manual to see how to check battery status and it said to look at the bar graph during tx. If it's plugged into the charger it shows a solid bar/S9. I've got to figure this one out myself. Morris Hays wrote: > I only have the small wall charger that came with the unit and my question > is how do I know when the battery is charged? I don't want to overcharge it > and so try discharge it to near dead so I can put it on for a few hours > without too much worry. If it isn't near total discharge though how do I > gestimate how long to leave it on charge? If the only way is to get a > better charger I would greatly appreciate advice as to which model would be > best. > Thanks for any help. > Kell Hays > KB1DZN > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BMERRILL@LINKLINE.COM > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 19 19:51:24 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA29439 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:51:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 17:50:49 -0800 From: BA Merrill X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] I SEE ME!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D583F9.51816C42@linkline.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hey! I see me -- both places. Don't know if any one else does but I'm seeing both my icons on the laptop -- base and mobile. They are both appearing in the "data" list now (duh, why would I expect to see my laptop show up on it's own heard list????). . .anyway; in looking at what was appearing I figured out that I must have some input errors on the TH-D7 unit. Yup, a few typos and a change from NMEA and wa la. . . .so, if any one else sees me(s) and sees errors in the packet info being sent, please let me know what I need to correct. Actually, this learning curve has been very good for me as I've been able to spend two days now all by myself, just me and my radio, getting to know each other and I think we've bonded : ) I might actually be able to operate the radio now (well at least this part). BTW, does any one know of a URL where I can put in street addresses and get long/lat info? Thanks again everybody for your patience and information. See you on the map! BettyAnn, KC6ING --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 19 20:01:33 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA29943 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:01:27 -0600 (CST) From: RASNM@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:01:10 EST Subject: [htaprs] Re: I SEE ME!!! (Map info) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 3/19/00 6:52:23 PM US Mountain Standard Time, bmerrill@linkline.com writes: << BTW, does any one know of a URL where I can put in street addresses and get long/lat info? >> Map Blast: Map Address Entry have fun - Ron Now I would like to know if there is a place where I can get altitude information via address or Long/Lat ??? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 19 20:02:46 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA29970 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:02:43 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:02:03 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] D7/APRSDOS/D700 - strangeness From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: "Bob Bruninga, WB4APR" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have been mucking about with APRS 846 and APRSTK here on an old 386 laptop. I am getting ready to leave the laptop which hardly draws any juice hung onto my KPC-3+ which runs the wide digi for NW VT and feed UO14/AO27 positions to the local area. After spending an afternoon making D7/D700 cables to replace the rats nest of tweenies et al. I left the laptop up on the dining room table running APRS846 as KA2BQE-7 with the D7 on ExtraLow power in TNC mode (as opposed to APRS mode). All seemed fine and I brought up the D700 and the GPS in the car and set APRSDOS to track it and then left to go over to the next town. OK, so far, so good. What I noticed was that although KA2BQE-3 showed up nice and regular on the D700 list. KA@BQE-7 did not. I initiated a message to KA2BQE-7 and it got ACKed, I forgot abput it for the moment, set the D700 to beacon every 20 minutes while I was stopped and when I came back out 90 minutes later, still no KA2BQE-7 in the D700 List. I resent the message from before, changing the text a little and it too got ACKed. I started driving home and still no "-7". I got home and went in, the system was running fine, I watched "-7" beacon and be digipeated through KA2BQE-3, there was no way the D700 could have missed that ... but still no KA2BQE-7 on the D700 list. I went and shut down APRS846 and took the D7 and shut it down and then brought it back up in APRS mode and forced a beacon ... wham bam thankyou m'am ... KA2BQE-7 right on the top of the list ... ... WHY??????????? -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "You will know fear. Then you will know pain. Then you will use a Mac." -- from somewhere on the Net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 19 20:25:35 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA01000 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:25:32 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: davev@pop.enteract.com Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:22:23 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David Vrona Subject: [htaprs] Re: I SEE ME!!! (Map info) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000319202126.00b9fb20@pop.enteract.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > > >Now I would like to know if there is a place where I can get altitude >information via address or Long/Lat ??? Is there a site where I can enter any worldwide Lat/Lon and view the location on a map? -- Join our SETI@home team at www.wuies.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 19 22:26:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA05616 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:26:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Brent Hildebrand" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Cool D700 Tricks Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:25:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00ff01bf9224$73e48fa0$7692b3d1@laptop233> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Try this: When you send the D700 "AI 1" via the serial port, is will echo back commands as you execute them on the radio's controls. Turn the radio off, you get "PS 0". Try sending commands to the radio when it is off. It echoes "?". But it is off! Send it "PS 1", the opposite of "PS 0". Nothing. Send it "PS 1", wait a split second, and send it again. The radio turns on! So you can turn the radio on and off from the serial port. Now, turn the radio off, and disconnect to control head. Send the "PS 1" on sequence. The radio turns on.!! You can completely control the radio from the serial port with the Control Head disconnected. Oh the possibilities!! Brent Hildebrand, KH2Z APRS+SA http://www.tapr.org/~kh2z/aprsplus ftp://ftp.tapr.org/aprssig/winstuff/aprsplus [] --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 19 22:37:32 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA06228 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:37:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:38:25 -0800 Reply-To: carndt@slonet.org From: "Chris Arndt" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Cool D700 Tricks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <200003192038250730.00E878EC@smtp.in-con.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I wondered about this. With this info, at least the radio would have still some use if the control head became unusable/damaged/lost/stolen... *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/19/00, at 8:29 PM, Brent Hildebrand wrote: >Try this: >When you send the D700 "AI 1" via the serial port, is will echo back >commands as you execute them on the radio's controls. Turn the radio off, >you get "PS 0". Try sending commands to the radio when it is off. It >echoes "?". But it is off! Send it "PS 1", the opposite of "PS 0". >Nothing. Send it "PS 1", wait a split second, and send it again. The radio >turns on! So you can turn the radio on and off from the serial port. Now, >turn the radio off, and disconnect to control head. Send the "PS 1" on >sequence. The radio turns on.!! You can completely control the radio from >the serial port with the Control Head disconnected. Oh the possibilities!! > >Brent Hildebrand, KH2Z > >APRS+SA >http://www.tapr.org/~kh2z/aprsplus >ftp://ftp.tapr.org/aprssig/winstuff/aprsplus > >[] > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: carndt@slonet.org >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 07:42:53 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA06669 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:42:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:41:21 -0800 From: Glenn Cummings X-Accept-Language: en,en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Charging the TH-D7a References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D62A81.93BB8790@foxinternet.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I am very pleased with the MH-C777. I usually leave is set up for my D7 battery, but also use on several other packs. Its at http://www.maha-comm.com/products/chargers/mhc777.htm It handles several voltages, has a discharge cycle, also a jack for 'jumper cables' Here's is the top link for your book mark: http://www.maha-comm.com/ Morris Hays wrote: > I only have the small wall charger that came with the unit and my question > is how do I know when the battery is charged? I don't want to overcharge it > and so try discharge it to near dead so I can put it on for a few hours > without too much worry. If it isn't near total discharge though how do I > gestimate how long to leave it on charge? If the only way is to get a > better charger I would greatly appreciate advice as to which model would be > best. > Thanks for any help. > Kell Hays > KB1DZN > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kg7il@foxinternet.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 08:50:47 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA08764 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:50:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: Paul Jacques To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Additional control head for D700? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 06:48:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am considering purchasing a D700. As I have two vehicles, I would like to be able to move the D700 between vehicles. Are spare control heads available? How are the control heads mounted? Is it cumbersome to move the control head and radio in and out of the vehicle? How long is the control head cable? What is the current best going price for a D700? Thank You, Paul Jacques WB6IWT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 09:46:20 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA10692 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:46:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:47:06 -0600 From: Robbie Robertson X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Cool D700 Tricks References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D647FA.C87B33FC@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Brent Hildebrand wrote: > > Try this: > When you send the D700 "AI 1" via the serial port, is will echo back > commands as you execute them on the radio's controls. Turn the radio off, > you get "PS 0". Try sending commands to the radio when it is off. It > echoes "?". But it is off! Send it "PS 1", the opposite of "PS 0". > Nothing. Send it "PS 1", wait a split second, and send it again. The radio > turns on! So you can turn the radio on and off from the serial port. Now, > turn the radio off, and disconnect to control head. Send the "PS 1" on > sequence. The radio turns on.!! You can completely control the radio from > the serial port with the Control Head disconnected. Oh the possibilities!! > > Brent Hildebrand, KH2Z Whoa Nellie! Three lite bulbs lit up as I read your comments Brent!!! Thanks Robbie -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 09:48:35 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA10781 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:48:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:48:54 -0600 From: Robbie Robertson X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Cool D700 Tricks References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D64866.4A7CE8@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Chris Arndt wrote: > > I wondered about this. With this info, at least the radio would have still > some use if the control head became unusable/damaged/lost/stolen... > Specially since I beleive Kenwood stated they WILL NOT sell the control heads by themselves? Robbie > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 3/19/00, at 8:29 PM, Brent Hildebrand wrote: > > >Try this: > >When you send the D700 "AI 1" via the serial port, is will echo back > >commands as you execute them on the radio's controls. Turn the radio off, > >you get "PS 0". Try sending commands to the radio when it is off. It > >echoes "?". But it is off! Send it "PS 1", the opposite of "PS 0". > >Nothing. Send it "PS 1", wait a split second, and send it again. The > radio > >turns on! So you can turn the radio on and off from the serial port. > Now, > >turn the radio off, and disconnect to control head. Send the "PS 1" on > >sequence. The radio turns on.!! You can completely control the radio > from > >the serial port with the Control Head disconnected. Oh the > possibilities!! > > > >Brent Hildebrand, KH2Z > > > >APRS+SA > >http://www.tapr.org/~kh2z/aprsplus > >ftp://ftp.tapr.org/aprssig/winstuff/aprsplus > > > >[] > > > > > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: carndt@slonet.org > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: mwrobertson@mediaone.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 09:50:17 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA10824 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:50:14 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Additional control head for D700? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:50:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Kenwood will not sell replacement control heads. Their documentation states that they are not available. I have a D700 that I move from my vehicle to my shack, and vice-verse. As of one month ago, the mounting bracket was not yet available either, so I made one out of sheet metal. The Kenwood service center had no replacement parts for the unit at that time. They may have parts by now. I suspect that they are expensive. The bracket comes in two parts, a self adhesive base and a tilting bracket. The head is easy to remove. It slides into the tilting bracket. To remove it, press a detent on the bracket and slide the head off. The cable from the head to the radio is long; perhaps two meters. You can't readily shorten it. I wish I had a second cable because the most time consuming task to move the radio is to reroute the cable. Rich Carter -KE1EV -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Paul Jacques Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 9:48 AM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Additional control head for D700? Hi, I am considering purchasing a D700. As I have two vehicles, I would like to be able to move the D700 between vehicles. Are spare control heads available? How are the control heads mounted? Is it cumbersome to move the control head and radio in and out of the vehicle? How long is the control head cable? What is the current best going price for a D700? Thank You, Paul Jacques WB6IWT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rcarter@isi.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 09:54:06 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA10964 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:54:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:54:29 -0600 From: Robbie Robertson X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Additional control head for D700? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D649B5.1E022618@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Paul Jacques wrote: > > Hi, > > I am considering purchasing a D700. As I have two vehicles, I would > like to be able to move the D700 between vehicles. Are spare control heads > available? How are the control heads mounted? Is it cumbersome to move the > control head and radio in and out of the vehicle? How long is the control > head cable? What is the current best going price for a D700? > > Thank You, > Paul Jacques > WB6IWT You will not be able to get a spare control head until Kenwood changes its statement that they will not be available.. You need to either "build" your own extision cables, or buy the extension kits from Kenwood or a third party... I made a second bracket for the control head, run two sets of cables in two seperate cars.. Unplug from one, plug into the second car and go.. Robbie ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 10:00:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA11158 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:00:20 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Cool D700 Tricks Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:00:10 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Too bad Kenwood's software doesn't have a virtual frontpanel like the TS-570 does. Rich Carter -KE1EV -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Robbie Robertson Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 10:47 AM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Cool D700 Tricks Brent Hildebrand wrote: > > Try this: > When you send the D700 "AI 1" via the serial port, is will echo back > commands as you execute them on the radio's controls. Turn the radio off, > you get "PS 0". Try sending commands to the radio when it is off. It > echoes "?". But it is off! Send it "PS 1", the opposite of "PS 0". > Nothing. Send it "PS 1", wait a split second, and send it again. The radio > turns on! So you can turn the radio on and off from the serial port. Now, > turn the radio off, and disconnect to control head. Send the "PS 1" on > sequence. The radio turns on.!! You can completely control the radio from > the serial port with the Control Head disconnected. Oh the possibilities!! > > Brent Hildebrand, KH2Z Whoa Nellie! Three lite bulbs lit up as I read your comments Brent!!! Thanks Robbie -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rcarter@isi.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 10:07:07 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA11461 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:07:05 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:06:04 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Additional control head for D700? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Paul Jacques wrote: > I am considering purchasing a D700. As I have two vehicles, I would > like to be able to move the D700 between vehicles. Are spare control heads > available? How are the control heads mounted? Is it cumbersome to move the > control head and radio in and out of the vehicle? How long is the control > head cable? What is the current best going price for a D700? No, they do not sell spares It is a phone modular connector. Its a snap to detach it and move it an re-plug in at the other car... bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 10:42:48 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA12795 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:42:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: rbost@itexas.net (Roy Bost) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] D7 Deaf Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:42:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002f01bf928b$3ae5a060$55f430d1@brmptrue> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk When I put my d7 in Packet mode and plug it into my laptop, it seems to be deaf as a post! It will only show the position of a station that is very close. The radio seems to hear ok but nothing shows up on the computer.. Have I missed something in the set-up? I'm using WinAPRS in the laptop. Roy Bost N5TAM rbost@itexas.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 11:19:07 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA13897 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:19:05 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: skng@pop.iex.net Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:17:14 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Steven K. Ng" Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Deaf Cc: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk You may be getting noise from the PC into your radio through the data cable. I encountered the same problem with a home made data cable. I installed a snap on line filter from Radio Shack. It worked fine after that. Steven At 10:42 -0600 3/20/2000, Roy Bost wrote: >When I put my d7 in Packet mode and plug it into my laptop, it seems to be >deaf as a post! It will only show the position of a station that is very >close. The radio seems to hear ok but nothing shows up on the computer.. >Have I missed something in the set-up? I'm using WinAPRS in the laptop. > >Roy Bost N5TAM >rbost@itexas.net > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: skng@iex.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- Steven Ng --- PGP Public Key - http://members.iex.net/~skng/skng-PublicKey.txt --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 11:47:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA14772 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:47:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.234.207.14] From: "Jim Morrison" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] D7 sub-mini plug Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:46:51 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <20000320174651.28872.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of a source for the sub-mini stereo plug used on the D7? I have been unable to locate a source and would like to obtain some extras. Thanks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 13:30:55 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA19003 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:30:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:31:37 -0600 From: Robbie Robertson X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 sub-mini plug References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D67C99.F43BBB8E@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Radio Shack has them.. I have used them and they will do... Robbie Jim Morrison wrote: > > Does anyone know of a source for the sub-mini stereo plug used on the D7? I > have been unable to locate a source and would like to obtain some extras. > Thanks > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: mwrobertson@mediaone.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 15:18:10 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA24217 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:18:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:07:31 -0600 From: Robbie Robertson X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Deaf References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D65AD3.39060CA4@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Supposedly, some from Kenwood mentioned the signal has to be full scale to be decoded. This can be very close to accurate as far as I am concerned.. Also, the stock antennae seems to be lacking somewhat.. :-) Try a better antenna and height.. Welcome to the club... Robbie Roy Bost wrote: > > When I put my d7 in Packet mode and plug it into my laptop, it seems to be > deaf as a post! It will only show the position of a station that is very > close. The radio seems to hear ok but nothing shows up on the computer.. > Have I missed something in the set-up? I'm using WinAPRS in the laptop. > > Roy Bost N5TAM > rbost@itexas.net > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: mwrobertson@mediaone.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 15:22:47 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA24427 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:22:43 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:21:55 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] D700's at APRS Gatherings From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk As I was just e-mailing Marc, VA3DRV to sign up for the APRS meeting in Ottowa next month, it occurred to me that with hamfest season upon us, and particularly Dayton, that thought needs to be given to the social protocol of when to leave your digipeater on in your D700. Almost everyone I know of who has a D700, except Hasan, also has a D7; and most of them leave digipeat on so they can use their D7 on EL power from whereever. It seems to me that a parking lot with even three or four D700s all with digi on would be a mess; lots of frames bouncing around and not getting very far. A dozen or so would be a disaster! Just my $.02!!! 73 de brian, ka2bqe -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys -- give us the rights Abraham Lincoln cherished lovingly: "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 15:41:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA25141 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:41:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Hazen, Dwight L" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: D700's at APRS Gatherings Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:38:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB640355674D@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have two modes of operation for my D700, Memory mode 1: Driving with GPS on, beacon every 2 min. Digi off. No need to use the D7 while driving the truck Memory mode 5: Parked with GPS on, beacon every 30 min. Digi on. (relay) EL power is used on the D7 when I am not driving and I am outside of the truck. Brian, you are right a parking lot full of digi's would be a mess! Dwight > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian B. Riley [SMTP:brianbr@macconnect.com] > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 4:22 PM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Subject: [htaprs] D700's at APRS Gatherings > > As I was just e-mailing Marc, VA3DRV to sign up for the APRS meeting in > Ottowa next month, it occurred to me that with hamfest season upon us, and > particularly Dayton, that thought needs to be given to the social protocol > of when to leave your digipeater on in your D700. > > Almost everyone I know of who has a D700, except Hasan, also has a D7; and > most of them leave digipeat on so they can use their D7 on EL power from > whereever. > > It seems to me that a parking lot with even three or four D700s all with > digi on would be a mess; lots of frames bouncing around and not getting > very > far. A dozen or so would be a disaster! > > Just my $.02!!! > > 73 de brian, ka2bqe > -- > Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr > For PGP Keys > > -- give us the rights Abraham Lincoln cherished lovingly: > "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: hazen@indiana.edu > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 15:58:52 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA26041 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:58:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Mac" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: D700's at APRS Gatherings Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:58:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <022e01bf92b7$665b4070$e05c44cf@memillian2618.ssr.hp.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > > Memory mode 5: Parked with GPS on, beacon every 30 min. Digi on. (relay) > EL power is used on the D7 when I am not driving and I am outside of >the truck. > > Brian, you are right a parking lot full of digi's would be a mess! Instead of Relay as alias, use your callsign with another ssid on the D700 in digi mode. Then, you will be the only one with that call in ur upath from the D7... my $0.02 worth! Mac W8XF --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 16:01:57 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA26218 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:01:56 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:01:33 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] RE: D700's at APRS Gatherings From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/20/00 4:38 PM, Hazen, Dwight L at hazen@indiana.edu wrote: > I have two modes of operation for my D700, > > Memory mode 1: Driving with GPS on, beacon every 2 min. Digi off. > No need to use the D7 while driving the truck > > Memory mode 5: Parked with GPS on, beacon every 30 min. Digi on. (relay) > EL power is used on the D7 when I am not driving and I am outside of > the truck. > > Brian, you are right a parking lot full of digi's would be a mess! > > Dwight In essence that is exactly what I do, except what you call PM5 I have in PM3 and in PM2 I have the same thing as PM3 except with DIGI OFF. One thing I do differently is that I have the digi do RELAY,WIDE,TRACE, that way I can 'see' what is going on as my D700 will repeat stuff coming from the KA2BQE-3 digi. My location at work is tucked in a low spot where I can hear and be heard by my Wide digi a home but will not likely be heard beyond a mile or two -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "Home is where your books are" -- Kitty O'Neal --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 16:45:12 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA28039 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:45:09 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:42:40 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] RE: D700's at APRS Gatherings From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/20/00 4:58 PM, Mac at w8xf@citynet.net wrote: >> Memory mode 5: Parked with GPS on, beacon every 30 min. Digi on. (relay) EL >> power is used on the D7 when I am not driving and I am outside of the truck. >> >> Brian, you are right a parking lot full of digi's would be a mess! >> > Instead of Relay as alias, use your callsign with another ssid on the D700 in > digi mode. Then, you will be the only one with that call in ur upath from the > D7... my $0.02 worth! I know all the nuts and bolts here, but the point I wished to make was that with the newness and popularity of the D700 and with Spring coming and that meaning ham and particularly APRS gatherings in the near future we need to anticipate what could happen and get D700 owners thinking along those lines. I would be very surprised if any of the D700 owners out there had even given it a thought. I certainly would not have if I hadn't been corresponding with Marc about the upcoming APRS meeting and he and I both being D7/D700 owners/users who regularly keep the digi on when we are parked so we can use or D7s while apart from our vehicles. -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "Arrogance and stupidity, all in the same package ... how efficient of you!" - Ambassador Londo Mollari, Babylon 5 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 17:43:05 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA00323 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:43:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Karl G6ODT" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] TM-D700 Control Prog Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:38:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000901bf92c5$73b1ada0$1e967ed4@amd450> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk For anybody who might be interested I have a Beta version of a control program I'm writing for the Kenwood TM-D700. At present you have Tuning controls that work and messaging using the PC. Check http://www.btinternet.com/~g6odt/d700.html for more details and screen shots. 73 Karl G6ODT g6odt@yahoo.com http://members.tripod.com/~g6odt/packet.html http://backdoor.to/g6odt 24hr Digi 144.800 Relay,Wide,Irth,G6ODT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 18:39:29 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA02303 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 18:39:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:46:02 -0500 From: Kevin Kelly X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700 Control Prog References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D6C64A.4D54E189@alltel.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, What a great program! You folks with programming skills are awesome! Now that is what call a "Virtual Front Panel". Thanks and keep up the good work. 73, Kevin/N6QAB Karl G6ODT wrote: > For anybody who might be interested I have a Beta version > of a control program I'm writing for the Kenwood TM-D700. > > At present you have Tuning controls that work and messaging > using the PC. > > Check http://www.btinternet.com/~g6odt/d700.html > > for more details and screen shots. > > 73 Karl G6ODT > g6odt@yahoo.com > http://members.tripod.com/~g6odt/packet.html > http://backdoor.to/g6odt > > 24hr Digi 144.800 Relay,Wide,Irth,G6ODT > > - --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 18:58:47 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA02861 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 18:58:43 -0600 (CST) From: "John E. Bruckner" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7a & Peet WX Stations Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 18:57:48 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In using my TH-D7a to check APRS WX broadcasts, I can receive all Davis, Radio Shack and Peet UII WX stations but not my own Peet U2K or any of the other Peet U2000 broadcasts. I and the other U2K stations (in town) are sending WX out in Peet Data Logging Mode (prefaced with "!!"). It doesn't matter if I set the unproto to APRS or to the default APK001. I can see and read the WX data fine using APRS Plus or WinAPRS, just not on the TH-D7a. In receiving the original APRS traffic I only see "?? W0HII" or "?? AJ0A" (both Peet U2K Stations). Anyone have a easy fix or idea what my problem is? TIA John W0HII --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 21:09:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA07787 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:09:35 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:09:08 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Indoor tracking at Dayton! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Brian B. Riley wrote about Dayton... > It seems to me that a parking lot with even three or four D700s all with > digi on would be a mess; lots of frames bouncing around and not getting very > far. A dozen or so would be a disaster! Then bring them in doors! I need seven D700's, one in each room at Dayton serving as BOX-N digis. I am building 7 Special BOX-N digi antennas which when stuck on a D700, will attenuate their reception by 60 dB so that they will only pick up D7's that are in the same room with them. SInce the D700 does Callsign Substitution and APRSdos does vicinity tracking, then everyone indoors with a D7 will be captured and placed in the correct room on the APRS maps. THus INDOOR APRS tracking! Ill make the attenuators/antennas if others of you will bring your D700's indoors. The arena (kenwood) and North hall (APRS) are already covered. ANyone else with a D700 going to be stuck in one of the other rooms? To see how indoor tracking works, read VICINITY.TXT included in all the README files with APRSdos... In fact, a few of these outside in the corners of the flea market and then we can track everyone without anyone having to carry a GPS. THat is, at least we will know where they are within about 100 yards (which is no worse than GPS with SA anyway...!) Dont worry about QRM. THese BOX-N digis will listen on 144.39 but transmit what they hear on a UHF freq... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 22:29:47 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA10616 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:29:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:30:53 -0800 Reply-To: chris@tbo.net From: "Chris Arndt" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] D700 ad errors? List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <200003202030530690.00C34278@mail.tbo.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Here's a challenge. Check out the D700 ad on the back of QST. How many "errors" are there on the D700 control head display? So as not to split hairs, let's assume standard "defaults", etc. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 20 22:47:30 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA11779 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:47:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:48:52 -0800 Reply-To: carndt@slonet.org From: "Chris Arndt" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Pic up: Re: D700 ad errors? List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <200003202048520100.00D3B786@smtp.in-con.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk So everyone can play, I snapped a pic of the control head part of the ad, and put it up at http://www.tbo.net/d700ad.htm *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/20/00, at 8:32 PM, Chris Arndt wrote: >Here's a challenge. Check out the D700 ad on the back of QST. How many >"errors" are there on the D700 control head display? So as not to split >hairs, let's assume standard "defaults", etc. > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: carndt@slonet.org >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 03:09:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id DAA27024 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 03:09:00 -0600 (CST) From: oester@us.ibm.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:16:37 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Palm Pilot Control Head? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <852568A8.0053ED56.00@D51MTA05.pok.ibm.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id DAA27024 Well, since Brent figured out that you don't need the control head, the obvouis choice for D700 control is the Palm Pilot!  Entering messages using Graffiti! Maybe we could rool this up with Pocket APRS? Bob Oesterlin, NØEST --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 06:21:10 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA10327 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:21:09 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:20:09 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Pic up: Re: D700 ad errors? From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/20/00 11:48 PM, Chris Arndt at carndt@slonet.org wrote: > So everyone can play, I snapped a pic of the control head part of the ad, > and put it up at > http://www.tbo.net/d700ad.htm > > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 3/20/00, at 8:32 PM, Chris Arndt wrote: > >> Here's a challenge. Check out the D700 ad on the back of QST. How many >> "errors" are there on the D700 control head display? So as not to split >> hairs, let's assume standard "defaults", etc. >> Well here is what I see; 1 - APRS on 146.97 (-600) - except it could be a MIC-e enabled repeater - which is further evidenced by the PTT being on the APRS side. 2 - 448.525 MHz (+5 MHz) is out of the ham bands 73 de brian, ka2bqe -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "Frisbeetarianism, n.: The belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck." -- author unknown --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 06:44:23 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA10819 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:44:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:44:41 -0500 From: "Edward A. Behl" Reply-To: ed@eabehl.com Organization: E A BEHL Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 sub-mini plug References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D76EB9.5790@gte.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Jim - > Does anyone know of a source for the sub-mini stereo plug used on the D7? I > have been unable to locate a source and would like to obtain some extras. > Thanks There are some links to sources on my website, at http://www.eabehl.com/hamradio/files/thd7plug.txt Good luck & 73 Ed, KG4ALG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 08:42:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA14361 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:42:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 8:41:41 Subject: [htaprs] link7 Released To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Anthony Parise" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk My new program for the TH-D7, "link7" is now available. It does everything the Kenwood program did, plus allows blocks of memory channels to be copied and pasted and sorted. It also includes a simple packet terminal. The URL is http://www.qsl.net/wa3hrl The program is freeware, so give it a try and tell me what you think. Tony Parise WA3HRL aparise@fast.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 09:47:34 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA16389 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:47:27 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: davev@pop.enteract.com Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:44:02 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David Vrona Subject: [htaprs] FS: Palm III hot sync cradle. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000321094243.00bacc60@pop.enteract.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I have an extra Palm hot-sync cradle here. I thought I would offer it to a fellow ham before I put it on Ebay. Best reasonable offer accepted. thanks, dave n9qnz -- Join our SETI@home team at www.wuies.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 11:17:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA20025 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:17:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Peter ZR5DWC" From: "Peter ZR5DWC" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: link7 Released Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:16:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <005c01bf9359$5bd32580$0a6f6fc0@zr5dwc> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk One word to some this program up. WOW ! Its even better (I think ) than the original. Well done Tony 73' Peter ZR5DWC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Parise" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 10:41 AM Subject: [htaprs] link7 Released > My new program for the TH-D7, "link7" is now available. It does everything > the Kenwood program did, plus allows blocks of memory channels to be copied > and pasted and sorted. It also includes a simple packet terminal. The URL > is http://www.qsl.net/wa3hrl > > The program is freeware, so give it a try and tell me what you think. > > Tony Parise > WA3HRL > aparise@fast.net > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 12:37:49 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA23172 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:37:47 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:35:00 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Deaf From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > When I put my d7 in Packet mode and plug it into my laptop, it seems to be > deaf as a post! It will only show the position of a station that is very > close. The radio seems to hear ok but nothing shows up on the computer.. > Have I missed something in the set-up? I'm using WinAPRS in the laptop. Me too. If I plug the THD7 into my Psion palmtop the psion de-senses the THD to the point it isnt useful. I wanted to be able to remotely reprogram the digpeater in the car :( Last weekend I went to a radio rally with the THD7, its front end is about as wide as you can imagine, all sorts of hams were coming through on several frequencies at the same time (ok, probably mixing products, there were a lot about) but I did have the official kenwood attenutator (whip antenna) in place, and its never happened with any other radio.. I bet it underperforms on a base antenna? Its ok as a handi tho. Carl gw0tqm gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 15:06:26 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA29129 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:06:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:03:47 -0800 From: Dick Kors X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Deaf References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D7E3B3.FA187CBF@netcom.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I am having the same problem and am wondering if it mght be solved by using the Kenwood RS-232 cable instead of the home brew one I am using. Since pictures of the Kenwood cable appear to have filters at both ends and I don't on my home made cable, could the cable be acting as a broadly tuned antenna and de-sensing the D-7 ? Dick, KM6EP Carl wrote: > > When I put my d7 in Packet mode and plug it into my laptop, it seems to be > > deaf as a post! It will only show the position of a station that is very > > close. The radio seems to hear ok but nothing shows up on the computer.. > > Have I missed something in the set-up? I'm using WinAPRS in the laptop. > > Me too. If I plug the THD7 into my Psion palmtop the psion de-senses the THD > to the point it isnt useful. I wanted to be able to remotely reprogram the > digpeater in the car :( > > Last weekend I went to a radio rally with the THD7, its front end is > about as wide as you can imagine, all sorts of hams were coming through > on several frequencies at the same time (ok, probably mixing products, there > were a lot about) but I did have the official kenwood attenutator (whip > antenna) in place, and its never happened with any other radio.. > > I bet it underperforms on a base antenna? > > Its ok as a handi tho. > > Carl gw0tqm > gw0tqm@iname.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kors@netcom.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 15:18:12 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA29551 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:18:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:16:19 -0500 From: Robert Marley <13764@UDel.Edu> X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Indoor tracking at Dayton! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D7E6A3.83E271FD@udel.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk If vicinity tracking will work with the D700's, This could be the answer to the caving question. Underground digi's !! Just what the modern caver needs. Bob Bruninga wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Brian B. Riley wrote about Dayton... > > > It seems to me that a parking lot with even three or four D700s all with > > digi on would be a mess; lots of frames bouncing around and not getting very > > far. A dozen or so would be a disaster! > > Then bring them in doors! I need seven D700's, one in each room at Dayton > serving as BOX-N digis. I am building 7 Special BOX-N digi antennas which > when stuck on a D700, will attenuate their reception by 60 dB so that they > will only pick up D7's that are in the same room with them. SInce the > D700 does Callsign Substitution and APRSdos does vicinity tracking, then > everyone indoors with a D7 will be captured and placed in the correct > room on the APRS maps. THus INDOOR APRS tracking! > > Ill make the attenuators/antennas if others of you will bring your D700's > indoors. The arena (kenwood) and North hall (APRS) are already covered. > ANyone else with a D700 going to be stuck in one of the other rooms? > > To see how indoor tracking works, read VICINITY.TXT included in all the > README files with APRSdos... > > In fact, a few of these outside in the corners of the flea market and then > we can track everyone without anyone having to carry a GPS. THat is, at > least we will know where they are within about 100 yards (which is no > worse than GPS with SA anyway...!) > > Dont worry about QRM. THese BOX-N digis will listen on 144.39 but > transmit what they hear on a UHF freq... > > de WB4APR, Bob > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: 13764@UDEL.EDU > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- Robert Marley --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 15:29:05 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA29988 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:29:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:28:40 Subject: [htaprs] CDN Palmaprs Maps To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Eric Cuthbert" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Hi All, I was wondering if there were any Canadian Hams experimenting with Pocketaprs and/or is there anyone on the sig that is/would produce(ing) Canadian maps for said?? Any info would be appreciated Thanks in advance Eric - va3ewc --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 15:45:00 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA00585 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:44:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:44:30 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Arndt Reply-To: Chris Arndt To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] APRS TCP/IP coverage map application? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Here's the deal. We are testing some mobile IP routers (www.nova-eng.com and click on the NovaRoam 900.) These are 900 mhz spread spectrum mobile ethernet devices with a max speed of 1.008 megabits. I got to wondering how to make coverage maps. Right now I stop the jeep, ping the office, and see if it works. If I hook up a GPS to the laptop as for regular ol' APRS, can I configure one of the APRS programs like APRSdos or WinAPRS to send posits out the network, instead of a TNC/radio? At the other end, can I have one of the programs pick up the posits off the network like one of the servers? If I could do that once a second, all I have to do is drive around town for a while and then come back and look at the map to see how coverage is. Any thoughts? Chris --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 16:16:06 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA01719 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:16:05 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] D7 Computer software and cable offer? Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:15:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I almost purchased a D7 this afternoon, but apparently Kenwood's offer to provide a free cable and software has expired. I can find no reference to it on their web site, and the sales person thought that the offer expired of 2/29. Does anyone know if the offer has been extended. If I have to buy software and cable, plus other goodies, that increases the price. If the price with accessories goes up much more, I might buy a different radio. Also, the sales person hinted that the radio is somewhat awkward to operate. My eyesight isn't what it used to be, and I'd be frustrated if the controls are poorly thought out. Any comments pro or con? Rich Carter - KE1EV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 17:04:24 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA03467 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:04:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: Joe.Cram@ejgallo.com To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Deaf Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:03:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <411E7DBFEB0DD311A32100508B0915410183A61D@modntes004.ejgallo.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have this same problem with the factory Kenwood RS-232 cable. I have to remove the rubber duck and connect to a gain antenna for things to work properly while connected. -Joe k6joe -----Original Message----- From: Dick Kors [mailto:kors@netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 1:04 PM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Deaf I am having the same problem and am wondering if it mght be solved by using the Kenwood RS-232 cable instead of the home brew one I am using. Since pictures of the Kenwood cable appear to have filters at both ends and I don't on my home made cable, could the cable be acting as a broadly tuned antenna and de-sensing the D-7 ? Dick, KM6EP Carl wrote: > > When I put my d7 in Packet mode and plug it into my laptop, it seems to be > > deaf as a post! It will only show the position of a station that is very > > close. The radio seems to hear ok but nothing shows up on the computer.. > > Have I missed something in the set-up? I'm using WinAPRS in the laptop. > > Me too. If I plug the THD7 into my Psion palmtop the psion de-senses the THD > to the point it isnt useful. I wanted to be able to remotely reprogram the > digpeater in the car :( > > Last weekend I went to a radio rally with the THD7, its front end is > about as wide as you can imagine, all sorts of hams were coming through > on several frequencies at the same time (ok, probably mixing products, there > were a lot about) but I did have the official kenwood attenutator (whip > antenna) in place, and its never happened with any other radio.. > > I bet it underperforms on a base antenna? > > Its ok as a handi tho. > > Carl gw0tqm > gw0tqm@iname.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kors@netcom.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: k6JOE@Chat.Net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 17:06:42 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA03654 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:06:41 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:05:33 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Indoor tracking at Dayton! In-Reply-To: <38D7E6A3.83E271FD@udel.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Robert Marley wrote: > If vicinity tracking will work with the D700's, This could be the answer > to the caving question. Underground digi's !! Just what the modern > caver needs. Yep, but kinda expensive. I assume you have read my CAVE.TXT? Bob > > Bob Bruninga wrote: > > > > On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Brian B. Riley wrote about Dayton... > > > > > It seems to me that a parking lot with even three or four D700s all with > > > digi on would be a mess; lots of frames bouncing around and not getting very > > > far. A dozen or so would be a disaster! > > > > Then bring them in doors! I need seven D700's, one in each room at Dayton > > serving as BOX-N digis. I am building 7 Special BOX-N digi antennas which > > when stuck on a D700, will attenuate their reception by 60 dB so that they > > will only pick up D7's that are in the same room with them. SInce the > > D700 does Callsign Substitution and APRSdos does vicinity tracking, then > > everyone indoors with a D7 will be captured and placed in the correct > > room on the APRS maps. THus INDOOR APRS tracking! > > > > Ill make the attenuators/antennas if others of you will bring your D700's > > indoors. The arena (kenwood) and North hall (APRS) are already covered. > > ANyone else with a D700 going to be stuck in one of the other rooms? > > > > To see how indoor tracking works, read VICINITY.TXT included in all the > > README files with APRSdos... > > > > In fact, a few of these outside in the corners of the flea market and then > > we can track everyone without anyone having to carry a GPS. THat is, at > > least we will know where they are within about 100 yards (which is no > > worse than GPS with SA anyway...!) > > > > Dont worry about QRM. THese BOX-N digis will listen on 144.39 but > > transmit what they hear on a UHF freq... > > > > de WB4APR, Bob > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: 13764@UDEL.EDU > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > -- > Robert Marley > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 17:07:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA03741 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:07:51 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:06:08 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Indoor tracking at Dayton! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Robert Marley wrote: > If vicinity tracking will work with the D700's, This could be the answer > to the caving question. Underground digi's !! Just what the modern > caver needs. Yep, I assume you have read my CAVES.TXT in the APRSdos readme Docs? Bob > > Bob Bruninga wrote: > > > > On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Brian B. Riley wrote about Dayton... > > > > > It seems to me that a parking lot with even three or four D700s all with > > > digi on would be a mess; lots of frames bouncing around and not getting very > > > far. A dozen or so would be a disaster! > > > > Then bring them in doors! I need seven D700's, one in each room at Dayton > > serving as BOX-N digis. I am building 7 Special BOX-N digi antennas which > > when stuck on a D700, will attenuate their reception by 60 dB so that they > > will only pick up D7's that are in the same room with them. SInce the > > D700 does Callsign Substitution and APRSdos does vicinity tracking, then > > everyone indoors with a D7 will be captured and placed in the correct > > room on the APRS maps. THus INDOOR APRS tracking! > > > > Ill make the attenuators/antennas if others of you will bring your D700's > > indoors. The arena (kenwood) and North hall (APRS) are already covered. > > ANyone else with a D700 going to be stuck in one of the other rooms? > > > > To see how indoor tracking works, read VICINITY.TXT included in all the > > README files with APRSdos... > > > > In fact, a few of these outside in the corners of the flea market and then > > we can track everyone without anyone having to carry a GPS. THat is, at > > least we will know where they are within about 100 yards (which is no > > worse than GPS with SA anyway...!) > > > > Dont worry about QRM. THese BOX-N digis will listen on 144.39 but > > transmit what they hear on a UHF freq... > > > > de WB4APR, Bob > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: 13764@UDEL.EDU > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > -- > Robert Marley > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 17:10:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA03834 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:10:39 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:09:12 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRS TCP/IP coverage map application? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Chris Arndt wrote: > I got to wondering how to make coverage maps. Right now I stop the jeep, > ping the office, and see if it works. > > If I hook up a GPS to the laptop as for regular ol' APRS, can I > configure one of the APRS programs like APRSdos or WinAPRS to send posits > out the network, instead of a TNC/radio? At the other end, can I have one > of the programs pick up the posits off the network like one of the > servers? Yes, instead of a TNC, your data will go through your network. Its plug and play... bob > > If I could do that once a second, all I have to do is drive around town > for a while and then come back and look at the map to see how coverage is. > > Any thoughts? > > Chris > > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 17:57:41 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA05149 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:57:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: "ke4slc" From: "ke4slc" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] D700 & external TNC Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:55:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <041f01bf9390$fcd73840$0201a8c0@ns.midusa.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone tried to hookup an external TNC to the D700. Soon I will be traveling alot and want to do HF Aprs. I'm looking for clues as to how to address the external tnc via aprs. How do I setup the D700? Thanks --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 21:48:51 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA12628 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:48:42 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:47:37 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Deaf From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have run the D7 with my home made Mouser cable sans snap on cores, on two different model Mac Powerbooks, a Toshiba 1850 Satellite laptop, and IBM PS-2 laptop, Gateway 2000 P60 system and my mainstay PowerMac G3 ... the D7 ran just fine with the stock rubber duck on all of them. I will say that when running my PowerMac I had to be careful where and how I oriented the D7 there were one or two spots that would get some hash but that was cured by simply moving the talkie a few inches. At work I run the the stock rubber duck, EL power about 300 feet to my Blazer with the D700 as a digipeater through about 5 masonry walls and my classroom is next to a room full of computers. I also cave a Comet SMA-24 antenna and there is no question that it works better than the duck, but there is no question that its not an antenna that you keep on an HT all the time - it would be destroyed in a a few days at most. There is a price to be paid for every benefit! on 3/21/00 6:03 PM, Joe.Cram@ejgallo.com at Joe.Cram@ejgallo.com wrote: > I have this same problem with the factory Kenwood RS-232 cable. I have to > remove the rubber duck and connect to a gain antenna for things to work > properly while connected. > > -Joe k6joe > > -----Original Message----- From: Dick Kors [mailto:kors@netcom.com] Sent: > Tuesday, March 21, 2000 1:04 PM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] > Re: D7 Deaf > > I am having the same problem and am wondering if it mght be solved by using > the Kenwood RS-232 cable instead of the home brew one I am using. Since > pictures of the Kenwood cable appear to have filters at both ends and I don't > on my home made cable, could the cable be acting as a broadly tuned antenna > and de-sensing the D-7 ? > > Dick, KM6EP > > Carl wrote: > >>> When I put my d7 in Packet mode and plug it into my laptop, it seems to be >>> deaf as a post! It will only show the position of a station that is very >>> close. The radio seems to hear ok but nothing shows up on the computer.. >>> Have I missed something in the set-up? I'm using WinAPRS in the laptop. >>> >> Me too. If I plug the THD7 into my Psion palmtop the psion de-senses the THD >> to the point it isnt useful. I wanted to be able to remotely reprogram the >> digpeater in the car :( >> >> Last weekend I went to a radio rally with the THD7, its front end is about as >> wide as you can imagine, all sorts of hams were coming through on several >> frequencies at the same time (ok, probably mixing products, there were a lot >> about) but I did have the official kenwood attenutator (whip antenna) in >> place, and its never happened with any other radio.. >> >> I bet it underperforms on a base antenna? -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 21 22:53:09 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA14763 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:53:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] LAS VEGAS aprs Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:53:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003301bf93ba$a4198800$95ba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk i have replied to several posts about status on the two aprs digis in las vegas. i sent e mail to n7zev frank who runs the digis, and hope to hear from him. i think the snow up on digi 1 at 8200 feet on mountain potosi may be a problem, the other site digi 2 on apex north east by the air force base, no ideas other than hardware malfunction, i live on the east side and been unable to hit the digi. i also am not sure of the I- gate operator.....soon as i get status i will pass it along. we sure miss the digi repeaters in las vegas thats a fact+ACE- 73 talkback voice is 448.625 114.8 fm that machine is up at 1200 feet ahat south of the airport find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.aprs.net/kd8s-7 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 00:17:06 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA24943 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:17:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: jcunning@oemd02.oem.state.or.us Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:16:44 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Joseph Cunningham Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Deaf Cc: Dick Kors In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000321221644.00972880@oemd02.oem.state.or.us> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello Dick (and the list), I've built my own serial cables, and found that when using twisted pair, one side of each pair needs to be grounded, or else there are spurious signals all over the place (and crosstalk galore). Just my 2 cents, Joseph KB7PPL At 01:03 PM 3/21/00 -0800, Dick Kors wrote: >I am having the same problem and am wondering if it mght be solved by using the >Kenwood RS-232 cable instead of the home brew one I am using. Since pictures >of the Kenwood cable appear to have filters at both ends and I don't on my home >made cable, could the cable be acting as a broadly tuned antenna and de-sensing >the D-7 ? > >Dick, KM6EP --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 04:29:11 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id EAA09799 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:29:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:28:38 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Re: Cool D700 Tricks In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000322042838.008cbc10@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 08:25 PM 3/19/00 -0800, Brent Hildebrand wrote: > >...You can completely control the radio from >the serial port with the Control Head disconnected. Oh the possibilities!! > >Brent Hildebrand, KH2Z > My FT-8500 has this ability, and I got in in 1996...CAT control thru the packet port. What's cool on the FT-8500 is you can set the radio, lock the controls, and remove the serial microphone. Then no one can change your APRS settings! About the only thing they can do with the radio is turn it off and on. 73, Mark KC7BXS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 05:38:13 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id FAA11367 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 05:38:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 5:35:57 Subject: [htaprs] APRStk problem To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Fred Hatfield" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Still working with APRStk and a D700. The big problem seems to be that right after the first pass of a tracked sat, the B side TNC remains set at 9600 baud even though the switch to 144.39 takes place. This effectively kills any copying of 1200 baud signals. It also means that any 144.39 transmissions after that first sat pass from my home station go out at 9600 baud instead of 1200 and consequently not copied or seen by any 1200 baud stations. Is anyone else having this problem? Fred Hatfield K8VDU New Orleans --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 07:35:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA14209 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:35:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:36:11 -0500 From: "Edward A. Behl" Reply-To: ed@eabehl.com Organization: E A BEHL Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Computer software and cable offer? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D8CC4B.AB0@gte.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Richard - This has been such a weird story, right from the beginning! Kenwood has always touted how they offer the programming software for their rigs for free on their FTP site. Along comes the D7 and they suddenly decide to pull the software after a short while and make it available only for sale -- the hook is an "in-depth" manual in electronic form on the CD-ROM that now has the software. Then, in an apparent change of heart, they offer it free with new D7 purchases! Now you're reporting that the freebie is no longer? Sheeeesh! Well, here's my two cents -- the beta software was snatched by a lot of D7 owners while it was on the Kenwood site, and you're likely to get offers to send it to you if you want it. There are a couple of noted bugs with loading DTMF memories and air band memory presets in the beta, and I don't know if they were corrected in the version on the CD-ROM. The cable is a straight no-brainer to construct, and will cost about $10 in parts depending on what you can cannibalize (the 2.5mm stereo phone plug is a little exotic). Check my website for the wiring instructions and a couple of plug source suggestions, at http://www.eabehl.com/hamradio/files/thd7plug.txt. I also just saw a link to a guy who has written a replacement piece of programming software for the D7, and it includes a simple packet terminal emulator. The site is http://www.qsl.net/wa3hrl. I haven't tried it yet myself, but it sounds promising. Also, there are a couple of sites listing the complete set of control codes for the D7 and D700 radios. Check Darryl Smith's site at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~vk2tds/d7.htm. The storage of memory locations is one of the commands. If you're into understanding how the radio communicates with an attached PC, this might be interesting. As for the keyboard layout, I can't complain (and I normally complain a lot). All the typical things you would want to change during operation are single, or at worst, double button presses on the keyboard. All the more esoteric settings are available in a menu structure that has text labels to guide you. The four-direction jog button makes navigating the menus easy, though it sometimes is a little hard to press the top corner instead of the left one. But what makes the D7 shine is the built-in TNC, packet, and APRS functions. Here, the D7 has no rival, and with all its other shortcomings, the digital capabilities still place this rig in a class by itself. If you can get by with any other H-T, maybe you *should* pocket the price difference and choose an alternative. The D7 isn't for everybody, and you'll likely find that it isn't the primary voice radio for those that own them. It isn't my "preferred" H-T, but it has capabilities like no other. The D7 is, by itself, a self-contained APRS station. Add a GPS and it becomes a portable tracker. Add a palm or laptop PC and you have a battery-powered, two-piece, extremely compact packet station. This is what makes the D7 a "must have" for some amateurs. The programming package was a nice perk, and if it's now gone, it's a shame; but -- and this is coming from a guy who beats on Kenwood at every opportunity -- it's not what should make or break a D7 purchase decision for you. Good luck and 73! -- Edward A. Behl - KG4ALG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 11:03:04 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA20550 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:03:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:05:22 -0700 From: Brian Badger Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRS TCP/IP coverage map application? Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D8FD51.1EB84D98@wcom.com> Precedence: bulk Bob Bruninga wrote: > On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Chris Arndt wrote: > > > I got to wondering how to make coverage maps. Right now I stop the > jeep, > > ping the office, and see if it works. > > > > If I hook up a GPS to the laptop as for regular ol' APRS, can I > > configure one of the APRS programs like APRSdos or WinAPRS to send > posits > > out the network, instead of a TNC/radio? At the other end, can I > have one > > of the programs pick up the posits off the network like one of the > > servers? > > Yes, instead of a TNC, your data will go through your network. Its > plug > and play... > > bob > Well, there is TCP/IP to worry about. The windowing built into the protocol will eventually detect a failed connection. At that point, you'd have to reconnect to the server, which is not exactly immediate. Furthermore, the windowing will buffer transmits for retransmission during short coverage hiccups. As a result, you'll get posits from spots where there is no coverage. The "real" solution would be to write a quick piece of code to capture every NMEA sentence off the serial port, and package it in a UDP/IP datagram. -- Brian Badger --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 14:01:18 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA27930 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:01:17 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] SkyCommand (was RE:D7 sub-mini plug) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:00:57 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for the information concerning the cable. I found a open box D7 at HRO in Salem NH that they discounted because it was missing the GPS cable. I hesitated purchasing it because I had previously been unable to find a cable. I would have never thought of looking in the telephone section for it. I picked up the cable at Radio Shack, then the D7 at HRO, and saved about $30. If anyone else is looking for a D7, they have a second open box unit that is missing the 12v power supply. The same connector is used for the D700. You have the Radio Shack part number listed wrong. It is 43-2003, not 42-2003. Now that I have a TS570, TM-D700, and TH-D7, I thought I might try to run SkyCommand. In theory, I could work HF remotely from my car, as long as I was within range of my shack. Has anyone out there tried it yet? I had heard that it is not legal on 2m, but I think it is OK on 440. Does anyone know what the limitations are. Do I need permission to run a repeater? Do I need some kind of phone hookup so that I can disable my radios remotely? Rich Carter - KE1EV -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Edward A. Behl Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 7:45 AM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 sub-mini plug Jim - > Does anyone know of a source for the sub-mini stereo plug used on the D7? I > have been unable to locate a source and would like to obtain some extras. > Thanks There are some links to sources on my website, at http://www.eabehl.com/hamradio/files/thd7plug.txt Good luck & 73 Ed, KG4ALG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rcarter@isi.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 14:34:24 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA29022 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:34:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Lavoie Daniel (NHQ-AC)" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "'oester@us.ibm.com'" Subject: [htaprs] RE: htaprs digest: March 21, 2000 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:35:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <41071031E76AD31186BA0000F81B417901FE2172@S000186.CSC-SCC> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bob, I'm presently writing a Palm Pilot application to control the D7 that will easily be transferable to the D700. Expected completion time is unknown because I'm getting married and moving into a new house. Daniel VE3DCL > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Palm Pilot Control Head? > From: oester@us.ibm.com > Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:16:37 -0600 > X-Message-Number: 1 > > > > Well, since Brent figured out that you don't need the control > head, the= > > obvouis choice for D700 control is the Palm Pilot! > =A0Entering messages= > using > Graffiti! Maybe we could rool this up with Pocket APRS? > > Bob Oesterlin, N=D8EST > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 14:50:33 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA29454 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:50:27 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:47:07 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Computer software and cable offer? From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > I almost purchased a D7 this afternoon, but apparently Kenwood's offer to > provide a free cable and software has expired. I can find no reference to The cable can be made (even if not by yourself), and the beta software is around on the internet if you look. > it on their web site, and the sales person thought that the offer expired of > 2/29. Does anyone know if the offer has been extended. If I have to buy > software and cable, plus other goodies, that increases the price. If the > price with accessories goes up much more, I might buy a different radio. > > Also, the sales person hinted that the radio is somewhat awkward to operate. > My eyesight isn't what it used to be, and I'd be frustrated if the controls > are poorly thought out. Any comments pro or con? The working of the radio is ok without too much looking, but still needs lots more eye power than using the DJ580e for example, but pretty well all the tnc/aprs functions require fairly frequent scrutiny of the LCD for really quite small indications of status. Carl gw0tqm gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 15:57:46 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA01954 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:57:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Dr. Rick Olsen" From: "Dr. Rick Olsen" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700A Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:57:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <0bda01bf9449$95759de0$f2f31018@bllvu1.wa.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk A long time ago Woody sent this email. For those who are still interested, I just learned that Dave, N7KZN (owner of Radio Depot in Seattle), has D700's on sale at $639 until the end of March. 73 de Rick, N6NR > Okay....I'm ready to purchase a TM-D700A. Who has the best prices? > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 16:23:32 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA02817 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:23:29 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: dgreig@mail.picknowl.com.au Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:57:12 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Denis Greig Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Deaf Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.5.16.20000323085712.444f548a@mail.picknowl.com.au> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello Joseph & the list from Oz, For my $A0.20 worth..... When I made up 2 data cables, one is quite long around 3m (10ft), I used twin shielded cable and added a small ferrite beads on each of the active conductors. These were fitted in the DB-9 plug shell and each conductor looped through one turn. I have not had any problems with spurious signals etc. One other point to be aware of, that is not mentioned in the TH-D7 handbook, programs like the APRS tracking program UI-View, need pins 4 to 6 (DTR=>DSR) and 7 to 8 (RTS=>CTS) linked in the DB9 plug. The genuine Kenwood cable has them in place. 73 Denis VK5PC At 22:16 21/03/00 -0800, you wrote: >Hello Dick (and the list), > >I've built my own serial cables, and found that when using twisted pair, >one side of each pair needs to be grounded, or else there are spurious >signals all over the place (and crosstalk galore). > >Just my 2 cents, >Joseph KB7PPL > >At 01:03 PM 3/21/00 -0800, Dick Kors wrote: >>I am having the same problem and am wondering if it mght be solved by >using the >>Kenwood RS-232 cable instead of the home brew one I am using. Since >pictures >>of the Kenwood cable appear to have filters at both ends and I don't on my >home >>made cable, could the cable be acting as a broadly tuned antenna and >de-sensing >>the D-7 ? >> >>Dick, KM6EP > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: vk5pc@bigfoot.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Denis Greig 18 Louise Ave Warradale 5046 South Australia e-mail: vk5pc@bigfoot.com Ph (w): +618 8401 6740 Fax(w): +618 8410 1859 ph (h): +618 8377 1374 Homepage: http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/dgreig/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 16:35:07 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA03172 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:35:03 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:34:17 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700A From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/22/00 4:57 PM, Dr. Rick Olsen at n6nr@email.msn.com wrote: > A long time ago Woody sent this email. For those who are still interested, > I just learned that Dave, N7KZN (owner of Radio Depot in Seattle), has > D700's on sale at $639 until the end of March. > > 73 de Rick, N6NR > >> Okay....I'm ready to purchase a TM-D700A. Who has the best prices? >> I bought mine from HRO in Salem NH, for $679 -- they pay shipping and NH has no sales tax, this may be a better bottom-line price that $639! -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence." -- Mahatma Gandhi --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 20:21:05 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA11618 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:21:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:20:20 Subject: [htaprs] Dual Duty To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Morris Hays" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk This is a little off center for this list but as it invloves a GPS connected to a TH-D7a for APRS and most of you are way more electronic savvy than I am, here goes: Can the GPS unit be connected to the TH-D7a for APRS and also be connected in parallel to a small flight computer at the same time that would use the same NEMA strings for final glide and speed to fly computations? Do they have to handshake or can the TH-D7a just wait for and then receive the data when it is sent to the flight computer (a high end variometer)? If one of the devices just waits to receive the data then maybe there would be no conflicts.?.?. This would be used for sailplane/handglider cross country tracking. Sometimes I think I should have listened to my mom way back when she told me to stay out of the deep end of the pool till I knew how to swim :) . Thanks for all responses and all the help I've had on this list in the past. Kell Hays KB1DZN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 21:42:14 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA13827 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:42:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:45:48 -0500 From: Dewey Bryant KD4EHC Organization: Hamilton County, TN ARES EC X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] KENWOOD CONTROL HEADS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38D9936B.A97B0552@bellsouth.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Haven't bought a D700 yet..... Own several 741/641/742's...which I recently discovered have unprotected 12v on remote head cable....shorted out & heated up cpu & all three rf decks....built & installed low current/fast blow fuses on all remote lines..... unsure if late model Kenwoods(D700/TM-V7/...) are the same when remoted ...forwarned is forarmed....73 / DB --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 21:42:46 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA13870 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:42:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "jsr" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] RE: htaprs digest: March 21, 2000 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:24:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <009101bf94de$66295aa0$8503fea9@bobcats2.oursc.k12.ar.us> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hey now! Get your priorities straight. You can always make a mistake and go into debt! Good Luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lavoie Daniel (NHQ-AC)" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 2:35 PM Subject: [htaprs] RE: htaprs digest: March 21, 2000 > Bob, > > I'm presently writing a Palm Pilot application to control the D7 that will > easily be transferable to the D700. Expected completion time is unknown > because I'm getting married and moving into a new house. > > Daniel > VE3DCL > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Subject: Palm Pilot Control Head? > > From: oester@us.ibm.com > > Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:16:37 -0600 > > X-Message-Number: 1 > > > > > > > > Well, since Brent figured out that you don't need the control > > head, the= > > > > obvouis choice for D700 control is the Palm Pilot! > > =A0Entering messages= > > using > > Graffiti! Maybe we could rool this up with Pocket APRS? > > > > Bob Oesterlin, N=D8EST > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kc5jgv@arrl.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 22 23:43:17 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA18514 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:43:16 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:43:21 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: KENWOOD D700 CONTROL HEADS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Haven't bought a D700 yet..... >Own several 741/641/742's...which I recently discovered have unprotected 12v on >remote head cable....shorted out & heated up cpu & all three rf decks....built & >installed low current/fast blow fuses on all remote lines..... >unsure if late model Kenwoods(D700/TM-V7/...) are the same when remoted >...forwarned is forarmed....73 / DB > UP DC 8 V, 200 mA max. GND STBY (PTT) GND (MIC) MIC NC: No connection DOWN -- ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 01:55:48 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id BAA27329 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 01:55:46 -0600 (CST) From: "Byon Garrabrant" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:54:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] Re: LAS VEGAS aprs Priority: normal In-reply-to: Message-ID: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <07b084155071730HAMS1@lvcablemodem.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 21 Mar 00, at 20:53, STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS wrote: > i have replied to several posts about status on the two aprs digis in las > vegas. > > i sent e mail to n7zev frank who runs the digis, and hope to hear from > him. > > i think the snow up on digi 1 at 8200 feet on mountain potosi may be > a problem, the other site digi 2 on apex north east by the air force base, > no ideas other than hardware malfunction, i live on the east side and been > unable to hit the digi. > > i also am not sure of the I- gate operator.....soon as i get status i > will pass it along. > > we sure miss the digi repeaters in las vegas thats a fact+ACE- > > Both of Frank's digis are running. We haven't had an IGate for a few months now. I just hooked mine up last night. Byon ________________________________________ Byon Garrabrant N6BG byon@mail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 02:13:20 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id CAA27732 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:13:18 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:10:25 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Dual Duty From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In article , Morris Hays wrote: > Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:20:20 > Subject: [htaprs] Dual Duty > To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" > From: "Morris Hays" > > This is a little off center for this list but as it invloves a GPS > connected to a TH-D7a for APRS and most of you are way more electronic > savvy than I am, here goes: Can the GPS unit be connected to the TH-D7a for > APRS and also be connected in parallel to a small flight computer at the > same time that would use the same NEMA strings for final glide and speed to Cant say for sure, but I have my GPS connected to the THD7 and have the GPS out line connected to another TNC RX line simultaneously without handshaking. Carl gw0tqm gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 06:25:03 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA12627 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:24:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 6:24:36 Subject: [htaprs] APRStk Problem To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Fred Hatfield" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk How do you update the entire satellite list? I have been using the I-K command to read current kep lists that I downloaded from AMSAT but the only sats that go into LEO.ORB are AO10, MIR, and ISS. All the rest seem to be ignored. And the hbaud rate still will not switch back from 9600 baud after a satellite pass, effectively stopping any further operation of APRStk after the first satellite pass. Fred K8VDU New Orleans --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 07:01:26 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA13401 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:01:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: Paul Jacques To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: htaprs digest Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:59:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Subject: RE: htaprs digest: March 21, 2000 From: "Lavoie Daniel (NHQ-AC)" Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:35:08 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7 Now, now......what has more priority around here?? ; ) Paul WB6IWT >Bob, >I'm presently writing a Palm Pilot application to control the D7 that will >easily be transferable to the D700. Expected completion time is unknown >because I'm getting married and moving into a new house. >Daniel >VE3DCL --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 08:46:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA16362 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:46:39 -0600 (CST) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:28:07 MST Subject: [htaprs] Re: Dual Duty Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-8,10-12,14-15,21-22,24-25,29-30,34-41 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Jim Baremore List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <20000323.074241.-338145.1.K5QQ@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:20:20 "Morris Hays" writes: > ..Can the GPS unit be connected to the TH-D7a for > APRS and also be connected in parallel to a small flight computer at > the same time Hi Kell I've connected the output of the GPS to my KPC TNC and my Computer on numerous occasions and it works just fine. >Do they have to handshake or can the TH-D7a just > wait for and then receive the data when it is sent to the flight computer There are two issues here. First, the data is continuously sent from the GPS at one second intervals and both units will receive the data automatically when their inputs are wired together and connected to the GPS output as mentioned above. No handshaking is required from the receiving units (D7 and Flight computer in your case) to enable that transmission. Thus it's unlikely the flight computer would have a wire to transmit any information back to the GPS unit. The D7 can send waypoint data back to the GPS if it is equipped with the capability to receive NEMA waypoint data and if it has a display. Thus you may want to have the input to he GPS wired to the output of the THD7. It is not required. What is important is that you NOT wire the outputs of both the D7 and the Flight computer together and tie to the input of the GPS. In other words, a wire can have ONE unit sending data although you can have several units receiving that data. This is really simple, I hope I have not made it complex... C U Jim Baremore K5QQ ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 09:18:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA17602 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:18:43 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:16:52 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] [amsat-bb] THD7A question. (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:58:35 -0700 From: "Hagerman, Nathan, C1C, CS28" To: "'amsat-bb@amsat.org'" Subject: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. My name is Nathan Hagerman, I'm a senior at the United States Air Force Academy. I am trying to use a Kenwood THD7A for a satellite balloon prototype, and I'm having a problem getting it to run in kiss mode. Our SpaceQuest flight computer outputs KISS packets (we can see that through a comtap program and through using the computer before on other projects), but we cannot get the radio to transmit the packets. We have tried software commanding the radio into KISS mode from a PC ( and then from a dumb terminal), disconnecting it from PC and connecting it to the flight computer and PTT'ing the radio while the computer sends packets, but we get no modulation on the signal. The radio is not shut off between changing computers, in hopes of staying in KISS mode, but still no success. Does anyone know what process will work to get the radio into a KISS mode that will function? Thanx in advance. C1C Nathan Hagerman United States Air Force Academy C00Nathan.Hagerman@usafa.af.mil --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 09:42:50 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA18402 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:42:48 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Joe B. Dorn" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Dual Duty Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:40:21 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Even as I write, I have a Garmin II+ attached to a MIC-e and a laptop. MIC-e would be similar to a D7 I expect. I had to make a cable using a DB-9 and a mini plug... Joe Dorn, W5VEX, Belton, Texas -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-15400@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-15400@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Carl Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 2:10 AM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Dual Duty In article , Morris Hays wrote: > Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:20:20 > Subject: [htaprs] Dual Duty > To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" > From: "Morris Hays" > > This is a little off center for this list but as it invloves a GPS > connected to a TH-D7a for APRS and most of you are way more electronic > savvy than I am, here goes: Can the GPS unit be connected to the TH-D7a for > APRS and also be connected in parallel to a small flight computer at the > same time that would use the same NEMA strings for final glide and speed to Cant say for sure, but I have my GPS connected to the THD7 and have the GPS out line connected to another TNC RX line simultaneously without handshaking. Carl gw0tqm gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: joedorn@stonemedia.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 09:47:24 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA18622 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:47:23 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:45:21 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRStk Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Fred Hatfield wrote: > How do you update the entire satellite list? > I have been using the I-K command to read current > kep lists that I downloaded from AMSAT but the only sats that go into > LEO.ORB are AO10, MIR, and ISS. All the rest seem > to be ignored. There are 4 options presented to you under the INPUT-KEPS menu: 1 - Enter an initial list of object numbers 2 - Update elements from a NASA formatted 2 line file 3 - Update elements from a AMSAT formatted file 4 - Load a new AMSAT formatted file. Options 2 and 3 will update your current LEO.ORB file Or Option 4 will allow you to load in a new list. (but it wont have the pseudo APRS 144.39 satellite as the first entry which is useful if you also want to monitor 144.39). (Or just download the latest APRStk. I always give it new keps before posting. Current version is 09). I always just use option 2. If I want the "update" to pick up some new satellites or if I want to delete some satelites, then I use a TEXT editor to DELETE a satellite or to Add a satellite. TO add, just duplicate an existing one, and all you need to manually edit is the OBJECT NUMBER and the NAME. THen when you INPUT-KEPS-2 to update it, it will get all the new keps for that new satellite. Then if you want APRStk to auto-track/tune, then you may want to edit the SYSTEM\SATFREQS.SYS file. to add your new satellite there.. > And the hbaud rate still will not switch back from 9600 > baud after a satellite pass, effectively stopping any > further operation of APRStk after the first satellite pass. You must be using a D700. THis problem has been reported and I will try to get to it next week after this saturday's APRS events and SUndays Balloon launch.. Thanks. Hope this helps.. Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 10:21:57 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA19836 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:21:52 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:24:23 -0700 From: "Larry Bateman" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Dual Duty Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id KAA19836 ** High Priority ** Kell, I am a hang glider pilot and I tried what you are asking about. I hooked a Garmin GPS III output to a TH-D7A and a Ball Comp Vario. The output from the TH-D7A was also hooked to the GPSIII input. Everything work fine except that RF kept getting into the vario and the audio and readouts for the vario would go nuts for a few seconds when the radio transmitted. I called Ball and they said that a filter could be built to prevent the RF from disturbing the vario. However, as of this time, I have not sent the units into Ball to have them work out the filter system. It will work though. Larry (Woody) Bateman KB7WWP >>> "Morris Hays" 03/22/00 08:20PM >>> This is a little off center for this list but as it invloves a GPS connected to a TH-D7a for APRS and most of you are way more electronic savvy than I am, here goes: Can the GPS unit be connected to the TH-D7a for APRS and also be connected in parallel to a small flight computer at the same time that would use the same NEMA strings for final glide and speed to fly computations? Do they have to handshake or can the TH-D7a just wait for and then receive the data when it is sent to the flight computer (a high end variometer)? If one of the devices just waits to receive the data then maybe there would be no conflicts.?.?. This would be used for sailplane/handglider cross country tracking. Sometimes I think I should have listened to my mom way back when she told me to stay out of the deep end of the pool till I knew how to swim :) . Thanks for all responses and all the help I've had on this list in the past. Kell Hays KB1DZN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lbateman@preco.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 11:34:03 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA22465 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:34:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:33:47 Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Computer software and cable offer? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Darwin Thompson" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Hi I just check the Kenwood Site this morning the Cable & Software offer is good thru the end March. 73 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 11:53:48 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA23078 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:53:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Dobbs, Mike" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Computer software and cable offer? Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:52:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <548152BB0AD9D2119C400008C7CFE8C86364DB@gold-exch.amgen.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I ordered my D7 from AES for $399 yesterday. It appears the free D7 cable & software offer is valid until 3/31/00, according to the AES and a few other online vendor web sites. I also checked the Kenwood site and it confirmed this date. Now, I just have to pass my Tech-nocode exam this Tuesday ;-) Mike Dobbs ext. 73602 Alpha-numeric Pager: Pager-mdobbs or 805-359-4266 Research Computing Services AmGenesis News & Information can be found at: http://resweb.amgen.com/~mdobbs --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 15:57:23 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA03008 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:57:22 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:56:22 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Dual Duty From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/22/00 8:20 PM, Morris Hays at mhays@snet.net wrote: > This is a little off center for this list but as it invloves a GPS > connected to a TH-D7a for APRS and most of you are way more electronic > savvy than I am, here goes: Can the GPS unit be connected to the TH-D7a for > APRS and also be connected in parallel to a small flight computer at the > same time that would use the same NEMA strings for final glide and speed to > fly computations? Do they have to handshake or can the TH-D7a just wait for > and then receive the data when it is sent to the flight computer (a high > end variometer)? If one of the devices just waits to receive the data then > maybe there would be no conflicts.?.?. This would be used for > sailplane/handglider cross country tracking. Sometimes I think I should > have listened to my mom way back when she told me to stay out of the deep > end of the pool till I knew how to swim :) . Thanks for all responses and > all the help I've had on this list in the past. > Kell Hays > KB1DZN No problem, just wire up the GPS cable as a "Y" he only thing is you don't want to have the data out of the D7 and the flight computer "Y"-ed. You would select either the D7 or the flight computer to send data (usually waypoints) to the GPS if it accepts them. 73 de brian, ka2bqe -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "If you can't believe what you read in comic books, what can you believe?" -- Bullwinkle J. Moose --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 16:37:08 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA04431 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:37:08 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Gabriele Belle" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] help Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:36:45 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000701bf9518$454d22a0$100eec80@DFAS019.usafa.af.mil> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Ma'am/Sir, I am Systems Engineer at the Air Force Academy and responsible to help cadets build small satellites. We are going to launch one on a high altitude balloon on April 8th. We use mobile radios to command the spacecraft. One radio will be connected to a notebook. This set up will be our mobile ground station. The other radio is connected to a computerboard on the spacecraft. The radios we bought are TH-D7A. We need to use them in packet operation and KISS. We tried to set it up for Kiss and 9600 baud but could not get any data to be sent out by the radio. We do not know what to do and were wondering if anybody could help. Mr. Clifford from KENWOOD has given me your e-mail address. If know how to set up those radios for KISS mode and 9600 baud please contact me. I am very grateful for any advice I could get. Thank you for your support! Gabriele Belle ******************************************** Dr. Gabriele Belle Satellite Systems Engineer Dept. of Astronautics United States Air Force Academy Phone: (719) 333-4204 Fax: (719) 333- 3723 ******************************************** --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 16:58:04 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA04993 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:58:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:58:41 -0700 From: Brian Badger Subject: [htaprs] Re: help Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38DAA1A1.86A0F0D3@wcom.com> Precedence: bulk Gabriele, Not meaning to speak for the entire mailing list, but I'm sure there are lots of us that are willing to help. There has been some recent mumblings on the list about possible problems with the KISS implementation. This has not been definitely confirmed by anyone. KISS is sort of tough to diagnose, since it really requires you to write software to test it out. Also, Kenwood has been less than forthcoming with information about the KISS implementation, placing that documentation on a CD that they charge extra for. I have not purchased this CD, but others on the list have. Perhaps one of them would be willing to excerpt the meaningful passages of the documentation for you, as this would qualify as educational fair-use. Furthermore, you can speed the diagnosis by providing extra information about the configuration, the symptoms and the steps you took to set up the system. For instance: does the red transmit led illuminate at all? Continue to copy the list (htaprs@lists.tapr.org) on every email about this topic. -- Brian Badger, KC0HIR Mobile in the Miata W: (719) 535-5487 H:(719) 534-9522 (Yes, those are Co Springs numbers...) Gabriele Belle wrote: > Ma'am/Sir, > > I am Systems Engineer at the Air Force Academy and responsible to help > cadets build small satellites. We are going to launch one on a high altitude > balloon on April 8th. > > We use mobile radios to command the spacecraft. One radio will be connected > to a notebook. This set up will be our mobile ground station. The other > radio is connected to a computerboard on the spacecraft. > > The radios we bought are TH-D7A. We need to use them in packet operation and > KISS. We tried to set it up for Kiss and 9600 baud but could not get any > data to be sent out by the radio. > > We do not know what to do and were wondering if anybody could help. Mr. > Clifford from KENWOOD has given me your e-mail address. > > If know how to set up those radios for KISS mode and 9600 baud please > contact me. I am very grateful for any advice I could get. > > Thank you for your support! > > Gabriele Belle > > ******************************************** > Dr. Gabriele Belle > Satellite Systems Engineer > Dept. of Astronautics > United States Air Force Academy > Phone: (719) 333-4204 > Fax: (719) 333- 3723 > ******************************************** > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: Brian.Badger@wcom.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 17:25:21 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA05804 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:25:19 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:23:38 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Baltimore MD Balloon Sunday Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk There will be a 10 mW 433.910 MHz balloon launched from the Timonimum Hamfest (N. Baltimore, MD) at 1230 SUnday afternoon 25 Mar. It has only one tone to indicate Temperature. But we will use all the power of APRS for DFing the balloon, so come join us with your mobile handheld UHF beam for an afternoon of DF fun. I will post a list of UHF repeater freqs Friday to be used for coordination. Bring a compass. (No data is better than bad data.) THe balloon is on the air now on the roof In Annapolis for local DF practice (you can only hear it out about 2 miles due to terrain.) We will be beyond WEB page access and so will need someone to kibitz from their home to tell us the upper level winds at launch time on the local UHF repeater.. Here is the site for Dulles Airport. http://www.comet.ucar.edu/dstreme/data/stuv_IAD.txt de WB4APR, Bob Also on Saturday we will be using APRS and APRN (SSTV handheld cameras) to track/document the Naval Academey 18 hours of greuling field trials for hundreds of midhhsipmen. THis will be on 145.55 MHz if you are local. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 19:22:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA09980 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:22:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] vegas digi working ok Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:23:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004401bf952f$90f46300$ceba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk i was up in the mountains again today and fired up aprs and both of the las vegas aprs digipeters are running, the i gate is also operational run by n6bg hey i had my position listed as inside area 51 the place that does not exist and got a interesting phone call a few weeks back. someone though i really was inside the area 51 complex. it was a great conversation. the area 51 coordinates are (but this place does not really exist) 37 10 00 115 47 00 73 find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.aprs.net/kd8s-7 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 19:23:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA10015 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:23:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] vegas aprs talkback freq. Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:24:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004601bf952f$b8144180$ceba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk 448.625 114.8 pl aprs talkback or just hang out if you are here for the two radio convention ICWA 73 steve find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.aprs.net/kd8s-7 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 23 20:44:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA12264 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 20:44:43 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:44:06 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org, cooNathan.hagerman@usafa.af.mil, gabriele.belle@usafa.af.mil Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > >From: "Hagerman, Nathan, C1C, CS28" > > > >Academy. I am trying to use a Kenwood THD7A for a satellite balloon > >prototype, and I'm having a problem getting it to run in kiss mode. Sorry Nathan, The USA model of the THD7A does not transmit KISS mode. The European model TH-D7E version 2 does do Kiss mode properly, nut this is too late for you I am afraid. It works beautifully in normal cmd:/converse/UI packet mode... That is how we use it for APRS... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 24 09:28:18 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA20036 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:28:13 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:27:38 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] RE: Emergency Radios In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk CAVEAT: I am *NOT* pushing APRS on FRS frequencies. I only mentioned FRS on this sig as an alternate means of radio VOICE communications in our emergency work... So the following is only provided in answering the mail here with regard to my understanding of the rules... NOT as a recommendation... > Why not start a APRS network running FRS radio's??? ANS: Because Its illegal for "digital communications" on those channels. > From what I understand from the rules, we could do this as any tone(s) > passed on the FRS frequencies above 300hz, can not last longer than 15 > seconds. ANS: The "digital" rule means APRS PC-to-PC is Illegal. BUT APRS in Mic-E mode where it is only an identifying tone-burst on the end of a VOICE transmissions is perfectly legal. I confirmed this with the FCC. In this case it is like SEL-CAL and the FCC acknowledges that there are no hard "rules" for what constitutes a legal "SEL-CAL". So, APRS Mic-E's (A Mic-Lite constructed inside a speaker-mike) can be used on FRS for the purpose of tracking the movements of a VOICE user. The only argument that remains is the language that "you may not attach any ANTENNA, POWER AMPLIFIER, or "other" apparatus that has not been TYPE approved for use with FRS..." And the argument then rages on about whether or not SPEAKER-MIKES are considered "other" apparatus as intended in the above rules.... I dont think I have ever seen a "type-acceptance FCC sticker" on any speaker mike for ANY service... Duck and run for cover.... Oh, for a picture of some speaker mikes with Mic-Lites built in, see http://www.toad.net/~wclement/mim/mic-lite.htm or http://www.toad.net/~wclement/mim2.htm We use them here with non-kenwood HAM RADIO HT's as a plug-n-play way to track VIP's at special events... Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 24 11:01:19 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA23416 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:01:19 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:00:14 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Baltimore MD Balloon Sunday REV2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Here is the final? revised? data on the Party-Balloon launch: There will be a 10 mW FM 433.910 MHz balloon launched from the Timonimum Hamfest (N. Baltimore, MD) at 1230 Sunday afternoon 26 Mar. It has only one tone to indicate Temperature. (1800Hz = 130F, 240Hz = 0F) Photo: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/balloons.html We will use all the power of APRS on 144.39 for DFing the balloon, so come join us with your mobile handheld UHF beam and COMPASS. Late info will be announced on the HAMFEST talk-in freq of 146.67. APRS ops will talk on the linked 449.625 PL=107.2 so we don't desense our APRS DF data. There are NO nearby DIGI's so we need someone to put up a temp 144.39 digi for us.. Also we will be beyond WEB page access and so will need someone to kibitz from their home that morning to tell us the upper level winds via 146.67 from the Dulles Airport data at: http://www.comet.ucar.edu/dstreme/data/stuv_IAD.txt Depending on winds we may go for a <16 mile mission to land short of the Bay, or a long mission >26 mi to land on the E.Shore. The shorter mission will be preferred... Landing in the Bay is a loser.. de WB4APR, Bob > > Also on Saturday we will be using APRS and APRN (SSTV handheld cameras) > to track/document the Naval Academey 18 hours of greuling field trials for > hundreds of midhhsipmen. THis will be on 145.55 MHz if you are local. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 24 12:42:59 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA26580 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:42:58 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] D700 power cable source? Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:42:49 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to be able to disconnect my D700, and connect my D7 to the same power cable. The reason for doing this is that I have several vehicles, and I don't know which radio I will want to plug in. When I run the D7, I may want to also plug in a small linear amp. I like the T cable that Kenwood supplies with their D700, but can find no convenient source for the mate to it (the same sex that is attached to the radio). I don't want to endup with a large minimum order from a commercial distributor. Does anyone know a source for these connectors? Rich Carter - KE1EV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 24 13:53:08 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA29440 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:53:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:55:10 -0500 From: "Edward A. Behl" Reply-To: ed@eabehl.com Organization: E A BEHL Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS , cooNathan.hagerman@usafa.af.mil, gabriele.belle@usafa.af.mil Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38DBC81E.28@gte.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To the gang - Yep --- I was dumbstruck by Bob's response for a while, too. But I scoured the user's manual, and it's clear that the TNC is AX.25 compliant, but also says some functions available with other TNC's are not available on the D7's TNC. In the list of TNC commands, KISS is not mentioned. That explains why JNOS won't work with the D7. What's weird on my unit is that the radio actually keys the transmitter, sends the initial tone, but no data, then drops. You can extend the length of that tone with the TX Delay parameter, but still no data. It's a shame the E versions get the KISS functions but A units do not. I wonder if that was just a matter of the E's getting a later release of software? 73 Edward A. Behl - KG4ALG -- Bob Bruninga wrote: > > > >From: "Hagerman, Nathan, C1C, CS28" > > > > > >Academy. I am trying to use a Kenwood THD7A for a satellite balloon > > >prototype, and I'm having a problem getting it to run in kiss mode. > > Sorry Nathan, > > The USA model of the THD7A does not transmit KISS mode. The > European model TH-D7E version 2 does do Kiss mode properly, nut this is > too late for you I am afraid. > > It works beautifully in normal cmd:/converse/UI packet mode... > That is how we use it for APRS... > > de WB4APR, Bob > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 24 15:29:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA02973 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:29:55 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:29:21 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/23/00 9:44 PM, Bob Bruninga at bruninga@nadn.navy.mil wrote: >>> From: "Hagerman, Nathan, C1C, CS28" >>> >>> Academy. I am trying to use a Kenwood THD7A for a satellite balloon >>> prototype, and I'm having a problem getting it to run in kiss mode. > > Sorry Nathan, > > The USA model of the THD7A does not transmit KISS mode. The > European model TH-D7E version 2 does do Kiss mode properly, nut this is > too late for you I am afraid. > > It works beautifully in normal cmd:/converse/UI packet mode... > That is how we use it for APRS... Is there any possibility that this will be fixed in a future firmware upgrade? -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets!" --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 24 15:48:38 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA03459 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:48:37 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:48:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk You should probably direct this question to Kenwood at: Kenwood Customer Care [cuyeda@ix.netcom.com] They probably get a copy of all our messages, but they may not respond unless a question is directed to them. They have been pretty good about answering my questions. Specs for the D7 don't seem to list KISS as a supported protocol. This implies that they are under no obligation to support it. They may have run out of code space in ROM and had to cut it out, or it may be an error. I sure hope they can fix the problem. Please let us know what they say. 73's Rich Carter - KE1EV -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Brian B. Riley Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 4:29 PM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Cc: cooNathan.hagerman@usafa.af.mil; gabriele.belle@usafa.af.mil Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. on 3/23/00 9:44 PM, Bob Bruninga at bruninga@nadn.navy.mil wrote: >>> From: "Hagerman, Nathan, C1C, CS28" >>> >>> Academy. I am trying to use a Kenwood THD7A for a satellite balloon >>> prototype, and I'm having a problem getting it to run in kiss mode. > > Sorry Nathan, > > The USA model of the THD7A does not transmit KISS mode. The > European model TH-D7E version 2 does do Kiss mode properly, nut this is > too late for you I am afraid. > > It works beautifully in normal cmd:/converse/UI packet mode... > That is how we use it for APRS... Is there any possibility that this will be fixed in a future firmware upgrade? -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets!" --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rcarter@isi.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 24 15:54:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA03568 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:54:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:56:36 -0700 From: Brian Badger Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38DBE494.98C1DB8F@wcom.com> Precedence: bulk "Brian B. Riley" wrote: > on 3/23/00 9:44 PM, Bob Bruninga at bruninga@nadn.navy.mil wrote: > > The USA model of the THD7A does not transmit KISS mode. The > > European model TH-D7E version 2 does do Kiss mode properly, nut this is > > too late for you I am afraid. > > Is there any possibility that this will be fixed in a future firmware > upgrade? > I was not aware that there were any firmware differences between TH-D7A and TH-D7E. I was under the impression that the hardware configuration alone is different, and the D7 firmware detects which model it is by the diode configuration. If so, this should be a current firmware release, and could be provided to address this particular emergency by Kenwood today. In my opinion, Kenwood should promptly fix the D7A's in question to facilitate this particular student project. It stops being a "business decision" when it starts to impact the quality of an education; it suddenly becomes an ethical, not fiduciary, issue. -- Brian Badger, KC0HIR "I am not a beta tester." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 24 16:02:35 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA03814 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:02:34 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:00:09 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/24/00 4:48 PM, Richard Carter at rich.carter@windriver.com wrote: > They probably get a copy of all our messages, but they may not respond > unless a question is directed to them. They have been pretty good about > answering my questions. > > Specs for the D7 don't seem to list KISS as a supported protocol. This > implies that they are under no obligation to support it. They may have run > out of code space in ROM and had to cut it out, or it may be an error. I > sure hope they can fix the problem. Please let us know what they say. It (KISS) is in there and the commands for are is in there, it just doesn't work! It didn't work in the European (TH-D7E) firmware and it seems it was fixed in the subsequent upgrade. It apparently didn't make it to the earlier released us firmware upgrade to the TH-D7A. So my question remains, to Bob, whether he has heard anything about a future firmware upgrade for the TH-D7A and if it may include a fix to KISS among other things. 73 de brian, ka2bqe -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King Jr. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 24 16:55:53 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA05502 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:55:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:55:02 -0600 From: Skip Allison X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: LAS VEGAS aprs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38DBF246.E601B418@email.mot.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Byon Garrabrant wrote: > > On 21 Mar 00, at 20:53, STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS wrote: > > > i have replied to several posts about status on the two aprs digis in las > > vegas. > > > > i sent e mail to n7zev frank who runs the digis, and hope to hear from > > him. > > > > i think the snow up on digi 1 at 8200 feet on mountain potosi may be > > a problem, the other site digi 2 on apex north east by the air force base, > > no ideas other than hardware malfunction, i live on the east side and been > > unable to hit the digi. > > > > i also am not sure of the I- gate operator.....soon as i get status i > > will pass it along. > > > > we sure miss the digi repeaters in las vegas thats a fact+ACE- > > > > > > Both of Frank's digis are running. We haven't had an IGate for a > few months now. I just hooked mine up last night. > I just got back from the IWCE show in Las Vegas. Wed night I was not able to get any digi back from my D7 from the 24th floor of Ballys. I tried by windows on all sides. Then Thurs morning I tried outside in the parking lot in the back. I could hear an occasional packet from N7ZEV-2, but apparently could not get in. Is the receiver really deaf or what? I tried Relay, Wide,Wide - Wide,Wide - and v N7ZEV-2 The D7 is working fine. I turned it on when I got home and heard all kinds of digipeats. Skip K9SA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 24 18:27:12 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA08459 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:27:09 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 19:26:36 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS , rich.carter@windriver.com Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Brian B. Riley wrote: > released us firmware upgrade to the TH-D7A. So my question remains, to Bob, > whether he has heard anything about a future firmware upgrade for the TH-D7A > and if it may include a fix to KISS among other things. I dont know any more than anyone else. But KISS was not part of their specifications, although it is obvious they tried to fit it in.. Remember, The THD7 was released in the USA in December of 98, and early models had 3 minor bugs. ALL units were recalled and repaired and the remaining prodction was bug free. It did what it was advertised to do... APRS, GPS and normal packet. I think About SIX months later when they began producing a European version, they soon found out that the Europeans do not use APRS, and they all wanted KISS. At this point, I think ALL EUROPEAN models were recalled and re-designed. I imagine at great expense... My worry is that being twice burned by trying to satisfy everyone with everything possible stuffed into the palm of your hand, they might decide the risk is just too high to follow up with another model that is so complex. I am forever amazed at all the things they got RIGHT! Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 24 18:31:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA08599 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:31:38 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: davev@pop.enteract.com Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:31:08 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David Vrona Subject: [htaprs] Re: vegas digi working ok In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000324182953.00baed00@pop.enteract.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk That's odd. I can't get a picture of this area at http://terraserver.microsoft.com :-) >the area 51 coordinates are (but this place does not really exist) > >37 10 00 > >115 47 00 -- Join our SETI@home team at www.wuies.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 24 22:36:11 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA16312 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:36:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Scott Morris" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 power cable source? Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 23:36:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001601bf9613$a7355ae0$0301a8c0@smorris> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Try J & L. Their web-site is www.randl.com. I don't know if they will have the connectors, but their power cables are so cheap compared to the oem you may want to buy what you need premade. The cable assembly is $7.95 and the part number is IC2000 They also make one for HF Rigs, and the price for the KW2000 is $14.95. Much much cheaper than the Kenwood or Icom power cable for HF rigs. Their phone number 800-221-7735. This is at least an alternative. Another alternative if you are going to make your own is to use a standard molex. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Carter To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 1:42 PM Subject: [htaprs] D700 power cable source? > I'd like to be able to disconnect my D700, and connect my D7 to the same > power cable. The reason for doing this is that I have several vehicles, and > I don't know which radio I will want to plug in. When I run the D7, I may > want to also plug in a small linear amp. I like the T cable that Kenwood > supplies with their D700, but can find no convenient source for the mate to > it (the same sex that is attached to the radio). I don't want to endup with > a large minimum order from a commercial distributor. Does anyone know a > source for these connectors? > > Rich Carter - KE1EV > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: smorris@mindspring.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 24 22:44:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA16566 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:44:26 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:44:10 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 power cable source? Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >I'd like to be able to disconnect my D700, and connect my D7 to the same >power cable. The reason for doing this is that I have several vehicles, and >I don't know which radio I will want to plug in. When I run the D7, I may >want to also plug in a small linear amp. I like the T cable that Kenwood >supplies with their D700, but can find no convenient source for the mate to >it (the same sex that is attached to the radio). I don't want to endup with >a large minimum order from a commercial distributor. Does anyone know a >source for these connectors? > >Rich Carter - KE1EV > The answer is Anderson Powerpoles A quick read of the aprssig archives will give LOTS of information. --------------- As Radio Shack has the same T power connector on their HT-10 you might get one there or on radioshack.com. 73 -- ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 25 00:39:46 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA27413 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 00:39:44 -0600 (CST) From: "Byon Garrabrant" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:38:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 power cable source? Priority: normal In-reply-to: Message-ID: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <0d1c75039061930HAMS1@lvcablemodem.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 24 Mar 00, at 22:44, Robert Winingham wrote: > >I'd like to be able to disconnect my D700, and connect my D7 to the same > >power cable. The reason for doing this is that I have several vehicles, and > >I don't know which radio I will want to plug in. When I run the D7, I may > >want to also plug in a small linear amp. I like the T cable that Kenwood > >supplies with their D700, but can find no convenient source for the mate to > >it (the same sex that is attached to the radio). I don't want to endup with > >a large minimum order from a commercial distributor. Does anyone know a > >source for these connectors? > > > > The answer is > Anderson Powerpoles > Both powerpoles and the OEM T connectors can be found at www.powerwerx.com Byon ________________________________________ Byon Garrabrant N6BG byon@mail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 25 09:45:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA18174 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:45:22 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 10:43:11 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/24/00 7:26 PM, Bob Bruninga at bruninga@nadn.navy.mil wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Brian B. Riley wrote: > >> released us firmware upgrade to the TH-D7A. So my question remains, to Bob, >> whether he has heard anything about a future firmware upgrade for the TH-D7A >> and if it may include a fix to KISS among other things. > > I dont know any more than anyone else. But KISS was not part of their > specifications, although it is obvious they tried to fit it in.. > Remember, The THD7 was released in the USA in December of 98, and early > models had 3 minor bugs. ALL units were recalled and repaired and the > remaining prodction was bug free. It did what it was advertised to do... > APRS, GPS and normal packet. > > I think About SIX months later when they began producing a European > version, they soon found out that the Europeans do not use > APRS, and they all wanted KISS. At this point, I think ALL > EUROPEAN models were recalled and re-designed. I imagine at great > expense... > > My worry is that being twice burned by trying to satisfy everyone with > everything possible stuffed into the palm of your hand, they might decide > the risk is just too high to follow up with another model that is so > complex. I am forever amazed at all the things they got RIGHT! amen to that; I am amazed at all my D7 does and extremely happy with it. But the commands do seem to be there, just nothing happens ... why 'another model?' Why not a firmware upgrade. I have no idea how 'full' the firmware memory space is, but an upgrade ROM with KISS in it would something that I would want. I think they should give it to us, but I would pay for it if there was no other way and I would bet I am not the only one who feels that way. -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "One of the deep mysteries to me is our logo, the symbol of lust and knowledge, bitten into, all crossed with in the colors of the rainbow in the wrong order. You couldn't dream of a more appropriate logo: lust, knowledge, hope, and anarchy." -- Gassee - Apple Logo --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 25 11:30:14 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA21123 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:30:14 -0600 (CST) From: "BobD" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] APRS/ce Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:36:28 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk WOW, APRS/ce is a great piece of work! My hat is off! DOS maps work very well, haven't tried any others as yet. However, I have one small problem that I have not had time to solve. I receive OK (stations show in the station list and print on the map), but for some reason can't TX. I am using the same cable I made up for pocketAPRS with the Palm III, which plugged into the 3COM serial cable, but the Cassiopiea E-105 serial cable doesn't seem to like it :-( Anyone else using a Casio Palm unit and had a similar problem? Any hints on re-wiring the cable? Do I need to tie a couple pins together or something else? 73...Bob, N2IPH --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 25 14:47:59 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA26777 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:47:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: Bill Diaz Reply-To: "billdiaz@megsinet.net" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: APRS/ce Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:42:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01BF9668.6C069880.billdiaz@megsinet.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bob, I'm using the Casio e-100 with a PicoPacket when mobile and MFJ 1278 when fixed. I have a db9 male to db9 male null modem adapter attached between the Casio cradle serial port and TNC. APRS/Ce works with both TNC's without problem. Bill KC9XG On Saturday, March 25, 2000 11:36 AM, BobD [SMTP:BobD@virtualconst.com] wrote: > WOW, APRS/ce is a great piece of work! My hat is off! DOS maps work very > well, haven't tried any others as yet. > > However, I have one small problem that I have not had time to solve. > I receive OK (stations show in the station list and print on the map), but > for some reason can't TX. I am using the same cable I made up for pocketAPRS > with the Palm III, which plugged into the 3COM serial cable, but the > Cassiopiea E-105 serial cable doesn't seem to like it :-( > > Anyone else using a Casio Palm unit and had a similar problem? > Any hints on re-wiring the cable? Do I need to tie a couple pins together or > something else? > > 73...Bob, N2IPH > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BILLDIAZ@MEGSINET.NET > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 25 19:00:11 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA04539 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 19:00:11 -0600 (CST) Date: 26 Mar 2000 00:58:44 GMT From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] PubSafety Mobile Data Terminals Message-ID: X-Magic-Cap-Form: memo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <65B8EF67067E7B92> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id TAA04539 I just scored some MDT-870 radio data terminals on eBay. These are ruggedized squad car/public safety vehicle mounted data terminals with a serial port on the back. They have built in amber text only displays, full keyboard and a dozen or so programmable function buttons. They can be set up with individual unit numbers for private messaging or all call, etc. The specs say they are manufactured to be GPS/AVL integration capable. These are industrial/public safety grade packet terminals. Just search for MDT-870 on Altavista for some comprehensive info sites on them. If you run trackers in events or field mobile units for disaster service, wiring one of these in gets you full messaging capability out of dumb tracker units without having to risk a full mobile station plus your valuable laptop, and you can program the function buttons for various canned messages and acknowledgements, emergency, etc., so non ham non computer savvy operators can use the things and acknowledge messages without typing by reading a little card telling them which function button does what. And the keyboard is coffee spillproof too ;-) Hook them up to a TNC and off you go. I have to wonder whether this would not be a super substitute for the D-700 control head. With over a dozen function buttons, the On, Off, APRS packet on, etc. commands could all be programmed into buttons or even all into one button, and that if the startup is not scriptable, which it might be. The vendor has more that are not listed yet on eBay, and they are for sale. If anyone is interested e-mail me and I will send along the vendor's address. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Mar 25 21:37:49 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA08572 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:37:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 19:34:48 -0800 From: Gpowell Subject: [htaprs] Precision Maps To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 X-Priority: 3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00ad01bf96d4$3c9823e0$29fbc23f@defiantx10> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Has any one tried Precision Street Maps USA with WinAPRS. The docs say that you can use Street Maps v.3.0.1 and higher. I don't have a version number on my CD, just the name. The map format is 06.zp3, for example. I assume that would be the California map, again based on the docs. I'm interested in a good map of the Los Angeles area, and the Precision product is very detailed. Thanks for any help Greg - KD6AIS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 26 03:22:43 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id DAA24886 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 03:22:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 03:22:36 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Re: PubSafety Mobile Data Terminals In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000326032236.0081d8a0@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I really hate to rain on a parade, but I doubt you can just wire one to a TNC and use it. First MDT's use a proprietary FSK transmission scheme (no external modem/tnc is needed) and the MDT 870 is just a dumb terminal. I don't think it even has a RS-232 output. There are several private concerns/businesses that use MDT's, but it is mostly famous for it's deployment in Public Safety use (mostly police). In light of recent actions by certain law enforcement agencies (Remember Bill Cheek?), I would be very leary about even posessing an MDT, ESPECIALLY in mobile situations as a private citizen citizen. Although I feel that you and I have the right to own and use this equipment, your local police/prosecutor might not agree. And I would not want to be the test case for SoDak... If you would like to go on a legal adventure/misadventure this might be the route to go, though. My local PD, Sioux Falls, SD, uses MDT's primarily on 854.9625 MHz. And I would never ever EVER admit to being able to decode these transmissions to them face-to-face (nor some of the local FBI people I know). As an aside: some of their (SF PD) MDT transmissions are VERY unprofessional, and they post the position of every vehicle on patrol about every 10-15 minutes. The local police think these transmissions are secure... I would hate to be the one to dispel that myth, especially on a lonely road after dark. 73, Mark KC7BXS At 12:58 AM 3/26/00 GMT, Wayne H. Sanderson wrote: >If you run trackers in events or field mobile units for disaster service, wiring one of these in gets you full messaging capability out of dumb tracker units without having to risk a full mobile station plus your valuable laptop, and you can program the function buttons for various canned messages and acknowledgements, emergency, etc., so non ham non computer savvy operators can use the things and acknowledge messages without typing by reading a little card telling them which function button does what. And the keyboard is coffee spillproof too ;-) Hook them up to a TNC and off you go. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 26 19:07:43 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA02216 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 19:07:39 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 19:09:43 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/24/00 3:29 PM, Brian B. Riley at brianbr@macconnect.com wrote: >> Sorry Nathan, >> >> The USA model of the THD7A does not transmit KISS mode. The >> European model TH-D7E version 2 does do Kiss mode properly, nut this is >> too late for you I am afraid. >> >> It works beautifully in normal cmd:/converse/UI packet mode... >> That is how we use it for APRS... > > Is there any possibility that this will be fixed in a future firmware > upgrade? Hah! Hah! Kenwood and their nice "form letter" e-mails informed me that there will be no firmware upgrades available. I sent a personal note to one of the techs and I got a form letter back stating there were no planned upgrades to the radio. It's sad cause there ARE some bugs in it (just wait till Dayton and everyone's radios start locking up due to the massive traffic). Perhaps the newer production models will get improved firmware, but I don't think they are going to offer it to the rest of us. Oh well........ 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 26 23:07:43 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA09266 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:07:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:10:43 -0800 From: Dale Blanchard X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS , cooNathan.hagerman@usafa.af.mil, gabriele.belle@usafa.af.mil Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38DEED53.8932E54C@accessnv.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Jon Ogden wrote: > > on 3/24/00 3:29 PM, Brian B. Riley at brianbr@macconnect.com wrote: > > >> Sorry Nathan, > >> > >> The USA model of the THD7A does not transmit KISS mode. The > >> European model TH-D7E version 2 does do Kiss mode properly, nut this is > >> too late for you I am afraid. > >> > >> It works beautifully in normal cmd:/converse/UI packet mode... > >> That is how we use it for APRS... > > > > Is there any possibility that this will be fixed in a future firmware > > upgrade? > > Hah! Hah! > I was going into AES Tue and get a THD7A. I have now changed my mind. Also thinking about a D-700, but now I may be not buying any Kenwood products. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Mar 26 23:21:18 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA10004 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:21:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:21:46 -0600 From: Robbie Robertson X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS , cooNathan.hagerman@usafa.af.mil, gabriele.belle@usafa.af.mil Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38DEEFEA.2CF85F1B@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Dale Blanchard wrote: > > Jon Ogden wrote: > > > > on 3/24/00 3:29 PM, Brian B. Riley at brianbr@macconnect.com wrote: > > > > >> Sorry Nathan, > > >> > > >> The USA model of the THD7A does not transmit KISS mode. The > > >> European model TH-D7E version 2 does do Kiss mode properly, nut this is > > >> too late for you I am afraid. > > >> > > >> It works beautifully in normal cmd:/converse/UI packet mode... > > >> That is how we use it for APRS... > > > > > > Is there any possibility that this will be fixed in a future firmware > > > upgrade? > > > > Hah! Hah! > > > I was going into AES Tue and get a THD7A. I have now changed my mind. > Also thinking about a D-700, but now I may be not buying any Kenwood > products. Hi Dale, I have one of each and there is no way I would let the "kiss mode" effect my decision to buy or not to buy.. IS that the only way you can run your applications? 73! Robbie -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 01:40:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id BAA21985 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 01:40:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 01:40:04 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Re: PubSafety Mobile Data Terminals Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000327014004.008cb7e0@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Date: 27 Mar 2000 06:27:55 GMT >From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" >To: "Mark Fellhauer" >Subject: Re: [htaprs] Re: PubSafety Mobile Data Terminals >X-Magic-Cap-Form: memo >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by primenet.com id XAA23538 > >Due to the volume of requests for the vendor's contact info, I'll post it here: > >Twin City Surplus >1675 E. Fourth St. >Reno, NV 89512 >1-888-323-5630. > >I was mistaken in some statements as Mark Fellhauer pointed out. It outputs in FSK. I misread the manufacturer's info page. The rf modem they are marketing turns out to be required to bridge their latest laptop based MDT and their data radios. The MDT-870 terminal apparently has an internal FSK modem. Maybe there is some way to wire in a TAPR modem disconnect header and plug in a modem that would be compatible with ham packet networking. The radio lead is a 25 pin d-sub connecter, so if you had a pair or a small group wanted to network them, I think it would not be hard to get this plugged into the data in port on data ready radios like the Alinco mobiles, etc. > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 06:26:31 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA07861 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 06:26:30 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 06:28:16 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS , , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <38DEED53.8932E54C@accessnv.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/26/00 11:10 PM, Dale Blanchard at bolero@accessnv.com wrote: > I was going into AES Tue and get a THD7A. I have now changed my mind. > Also thinking about a D-700, but now I may be not buying any Kenwood > products. Oh, don't let that stop you. Even with the relatively poor support on upgrades to the TH-D7A, it is still a GREAT product. The TM-D700A appears to have all the improvements the D7A needs. I would buy both radios again in a heartbeat. For what they do, they are fantastic. Go buy them and enjoy! 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA Member: ARRL, AMSAT, DXCC, NRA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 10:26:12 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA17054 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:26:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:26:11 -0700 From: Brian Badger Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38DF8BA3.77C20B32@wcom.com> Precedence: bulk Jon Ogden wrote: > on 3/26/00 11:10 PM, Dale Blanchard at bolero@accessnv.com wrote: > > > I was going into AES Tue and get a THD7A. I have now changed my > mind. > > Also thinking about a D-700, but now I may be not buying any Kenwood > > products. > > Oh, don't let that stop you. Even with the relatively poor support on > upgrades to the TH-D7A, it is still a GREAT product. > I disagree. I think the D7A is an incredibly innovative product, with features unlike any ever seen. For what it does, there is no competition. But it's not "GREAT". It has so many bugs and design flaws, it's barely usable. Kenwood, at the least, needs to keep customers happy by offering a $50 or $75 firmware upgrade path. To fix the insufferable "buttons gone dead because of incoming APRS traffic" bug I'd easily drop $50. As it is, it is either a tracker, or a handheld transceiver, but never both. Will this adversely affect my decision to buy Kenwood products in the future? Absolutely. Will I let you pry it from my fingers? Never! There ain't no bleeding hearts on the bleeding edge. Nevertheless, Kenwood needs to take a lesson from Garmin when it comes to supporting their products. The customer, after all, is the one footing the bill. -- Brian, KC0HIR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 10:26:48 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA17080 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:26:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Tim Russell" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:24:59 -0600 Organization: Interlink Group Incorporated MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001301bf9800$9d6f4400$3302010a@ilg.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > From: Robbie Robertson > Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:21:46 -0600 > Hi Dale, > > I have one of each and there is no way I would let the > "kiss mode" effect my decision to buy or not to buy.. > IS that the only way you can run your applications? Two things: 1) It's not the fact that it doesn't do KISS, it's the fact that the D7 still has confirmed bugs, but Kenwood has essentially orphaned the early-adopters who have made it a successful product. If the newer units are coming with firmware that isn't available to current users, I'll be DOUBLY upset. Awhile back I heard rumors that new units had a BEEP MINE setting, which is the only way the beep function is useful to me, and if that's true and I can't get an upgrade, I'm not happy at all. 2) KISS mode is very useful - it gets around a lot of the compatibility problems with different TNCs and puts control over communications in the hands of the application program, where it belongs. Frankly, I'm surprised that APRS wasn't designed KISS-only from day one. I need KISS for things like Linux packet networking. Basically, I don't appreciate paying upwards of $400 for a product that has buggy firmware and then not being able to get those bugs fixed. Can you imagine the uproar if Palm had a policy like this for the Pilot? 73, Tim, K0RUS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 11:46:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA19861 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:46:24 -0600 (CST) From: "Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] THD7A Kenwood Bashing Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:46:11 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000001bf9814$570e8340$02000003@oemcomputer> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I see several people are complaining about releasing products with firmware that is not perfect and they get very upset about it. If the manufacturers were to wait until everything was perfect, then we would never see any of the neat new products, because nothing now days is perfect especially when it is software controlled. I don't see anyone complaining that Microsoft keeps releasing all their new operating systems which have known bugs built in. Some of which they were not aware of and others that they knew existed but they release it anyway because they are already behind schedule. Look at Windows 98, it was not even Y2K compliant in the original released version. They give you some "free" upgrades at their site, but then they want you to pay for the Release 2 upgrade which fixes their screw-ups and adds a couple of things that I have no need for. This seems to be an accepted practice even though, to me it boarders on fraud, since for us non-computer gurus, we are a captive audience and have to pay and pay and pay. Kenwood had marketed an excellent product in the TH-D7A and lets give them credit for that. Until something better comes available, I will not hesitate recommending it to everyone with an interest in APRS. Thank you Kenwood for putting out such a fine radio for us to play with. Yes, it has some bugs, but nothing I can't live with. Yes, there are plenty of improvements that could be added to this radio, but us cheap guys, which includes the majority of the ham community, would not want to pay for it. So, lets be happy with what we got. Yes, Garmin is a fantastic company. I have been with them ever since I bought my first GPS and would never consider switching. Their FREE software upgrades are super, but keep in mind that economic reasons forced them into this free upgrade process. They originally started it to fix problems on units that would not work properly and they could not afford to take them all back for upgrades, so they put the info on the web to save money and we all benefited from that decision. Long before Kenwood came out with the TH-D7A, I recommended to ICOM to make a similar product since I was an ICOM man, but their marketing group turned down my suggestion since they did not feel there was any money to made with such a product. I certainly hope that Kenwood is making money at it so that they can develop more of these neat products in the future. Like I said before: THANK YOU KENWOOD! Herb, KB7UVC NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator www.nwaprs.org My Home Page: http://www.hctc.com/~gerhardt/ > -----Original Message----- >> > Two things: > > 1) It's not the fact that it doesn't do KISS, it's the fact that the D7 > still has confirmed bugs, but Kenwood has essentially orphaned the > early-adopters who have made it a successful product. If the newer units > are coming with firmware that isn't available to current users, I'll be > DOUBLY upset. Awhile back I heard rumors that new units had a BEEP MINE > setting, which is the only way the beep function is useful to me, and if > that's true and I can't get an upgrade, I'm not happy at all. > > Basically, I don't appreciate paying upwards of $400 for a > product that has > buggy firmware and then not being able to get those bugs fixed. Can you > imagine the uproar if Palm had a policy like this for the Pilot? > > 73, Tim, K0RUS > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 12:19:54 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA20931 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:19:54 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:17:39 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A Kenwood Bashing In-Reply-To: References: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.0.1.20000327125957.039ed3d0@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 09:46 AM 3/27/00 -0800, Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC wrote: >I see several people are complaining about releasing products with firmware >that is not perfect and they get very upset about it. What I see is people getting upset because there are bugs that weren't known before purchase, and the manufacturer expresses no intention to correct them. I don't see the fact that there are bugs, per se, as the problem. If you buy a book and then discover that some of the pages are missing, would you not expect a replacement? You have every right to expect that this book will contain all the appropriate pages, and not have missing or mangled pages. The outrage comes up when you attempt to get the problem fixed, and run into the "too bad, so sad" attitude. IMHO, the product should perform as per the published docs at the time of sale. I've been on both sides of that one too, so I know what it's like to have to recall 10,000 units and change EPROMS. >I don't see anyone complaining that Microsoft keeps releasing all their new >operating systems which have known bugs built in. Hopefully not, this is the wrong forum for that sort of problem. > Yes, it has some bugs, but nothing I can't live with. Speak for yourself. Others aren't in that situation. >Yes, there are plenty of >improvements that could be added to this radio, but us cheap guys, which >includes the majority of the ham community, would not want to pay for it. Again, speak for yourself. I would cheerfully pay for enhancements and upgrades, but asking me to pay to have code fixed that was supposed to be working when I bought the radio is a bit over the top. The average APRS user is not a cheap guy. I'd guess the minimum investment at this point (all new gear) is about $500 to put a TH-D7 and GPS on the air. My APRS investment is many times that, just in new gear purchased, not counting homebrew or used gear. Kenwood has built a couple of excellent radios for us. They also have bugs. They knew there would be bugs. If they didn't provide themselves a low cost way to fix those bugs, then that's THEIR fault, as are the bugs. Given what's available in terms of flash and EEPROM, there's no excuse for having a product that can't have it's firmware reloaded in the field, without the risk of turning it into a brick with a bad load. (The loader code should be permanent memory of course) My products work that way, and have been for the last 10 years, and I don't have a fraction of the resources that Kenwood does. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBON/P84FlGDz1l6VWEQJccwCfW5qGe7m/onXFOf0L8fXl2Z1uTyoAn1Dp HWussdAxpn6GzGzLjvKQ/ygz =uD0G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 12:28:58 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA21313 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:28:56 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: jjeffers@deskmedia.com Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:28:19 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: James Jefferson Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000327122540.00acf3b0@deskmedia.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >2) KISS mode is very useful - it gets around a lot of the compatibility >problems with different TNCs and puts control over communications in the >hands of the application program, where it belongs. Frankly, I'm surprised >that APRS wasn't designed KISS-only from day one. I need KISS for things >like Linux packet networking. What is wrong with KISS mode? My D7A from April (1999) worked okay under Linux last time I tried it. The buffer is a bit small (256 bytes, I believe) but I was able to work around that by making a smaller MTU. I did discover, however, that the deviation was quite a bit to low on both 1200 and 9600. Does KISS mode in the D700 work correctly? I haven't had a chance to test mine yet. 73, -James Jefferson KB0THN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 12:29:16 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA21334 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:29:14 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:26:54 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A Kenwood Bashing In-Reply-To: References: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.0.1.20000327132049.00e30b10@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As an example, I'm working on an advanced doppler DF rig at the moment. It gets it's firmware from a PC paralell port with five wires and a loader program on the PC. There's nothing you can to to it (short of electrical/mechanical damage) that will prevent it from taking new firmware. I know I will have bugs. My customers will be able to load new firmware themselves, in less than a minute, delivered by email or pulled from a web site. If they don't want to do that, then they can mail the rig back to me, and I'll load it for them. So I know whereof I speak, when I say that Kenwood could have done this too. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBON/SHoFlGDz1l6VWEQKosACgthiewBSs9WgggGZgL9SHOEQh7VcAnA0W kN8iTTmcS2HVcaS1EaT/Fm1s =xrje -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 12:54:11 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA22300 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:54:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:53:51 Subject: [htaprs] THD7A antenna To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "John Shinall" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Is there a replacement antenna available for the THD7A that works and does not require an adapter. The OEM antenna seems to be little more than a dummy load. (The comment is not intended to be Kenwood bashing.) 73, John, K4YK --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 12:56:37 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA22408 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:56:34 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:55:34 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A Kenwood Bashing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, David VanHorn wrote: > Again, speak for yourself. I would cheerfully pay for enhancements and > upgrades, but asking me to pay to have code fixed that was supposed to be > working when I bought the radio is a bit over the top. I dont think KISS mode was ever marketed as a feature of the THD7. IN fact, I dont think any version of APRS supported KISS mode back when the THD7 was announced. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 13:14:53 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA23093 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:14:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:13:15 -0600 From: Skip Allison X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A question. / deviation References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38DFB2CB.3330E041@email.mot.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk James Jefferson wrote: >.. . > > believe) but I was able to work around that by making a smaller MTU. I did > discover, however, that the deviation was quite a bit to low on both 1200 > and 9600. > > Interesting that your deviation was too low. Mine is a little too high. Almost 4 kHz on 1200 baud packet. Does anybody know if it's adjustable? I'd like to try to see how much better the D7 works at 3 kHz. My mobile worked a lot better when I cranked it back to 3 kHz. Skip --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 13:22:38 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA23250 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:22:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:21:53 -0600 From: Skip Allison X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A antenna References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38DFB4D1.87023F18@email.mot.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk John Shinall wrote: > > Is there a replacement antenna available for the THD7A that works and does > not require an adapter. The OEM antenna seems to be little more than a > dummy load. (The comment is not intended to be Kenwood bashing.) > I was at a hamfest yesterday and looked for antennas. All I saw was a wimpy looking antenna (MFJ I think) with an SMA on it. The rod diameter was less than half that of the standard Kenwood antenna. I can't see that that would even be as good. Especially if you're trying to do any out of band receive. The smaller the antenna, the narrower the bandwidth. I've compared tx & rx on my D7 to my Icom W31 and the W31 receives much better. Both show about the same rx sens on a service monitor. Guess I'll look at Dayton for an antenna. I'm not going to buy an antenna without trying it first. A couple years ago I was going to try a dual band "Gain antenna". I dialed up a repeater that was a little distance from the hamfest where I was. The repeater was fairly noisy and I had to move around a bit to be able to key it with the standard antenna (my W31). When I tried the "Gain antenna", I couldn't find any place where I could get into the repeater! So much for that gain antenna! Skip K9SA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 13:40:20 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA23850 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:40:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:39:47 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Arndt To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A antenna In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Comet has a 3" SMA duck that works at least as well as the stock one. MH209SMA is the number. It's almost identical to a Maldol Active Hunter, only with the SMA connector. They also have a skinny 17" whip, the SMA24,and a 9.75 SMA3. All are dual band. I have the first two, not the third. There are several other listed, too.. Go to the AES page, www.aesham.com/cmt.shtml, and FIND (ctrl-F) on SMA. 73, Chris On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, John Shinall wrote: > Is there a replacement antenna available for the THD7A that works and does > not require an adapter. The OEM antenna seems to be little more than a > dummy load. (The comment is not intended to be Kenwood bashing.) > > 73, > > John, K4YK > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: carndt@slonet.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 13:43:26 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA23978 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:43:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: Busch Thomas H CNIN To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A Kenwood Bashing Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:42:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <513E61D5FC8DD111B9B300A0C9788AA501498FC3@cninexchsrv03.crane.navy.mil> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Actually, I think providing for flash upgrade should be something that Kenwood (and their competitors) should pay attention to. It partially solves the catch that Kenwood is in for fixing bugs without having to deal with massive product returns. You will never fix all bugs in a particular product, but at least with flash you can provide an easy upgrade path, as long as you have engineers to support it. Just too late for D7 and D700. TomB > -----Original Message----- > From: David VanHorn [SMTP:dvanhorn@cedar.net] > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 4:18 PM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A Kenwood Bashing > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > At 09:46 AM 3/27/00 -0800, Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC wrote: > >I see several people are complaining about releasing products with > firmware > >that is not perfect and they get very upset about it. > > What I see is people getting upset because there are bugs that weren't > known before purchase, and the manufacturer expresses no intention to > correct them. > I don't see the fact that there are bugs, per se, as the problem. > > If you buy a book and then discover that some of the pages are missing, > would you not expect a replacement? You have every right to expect that > this book will contain all the appropriate pages, and not have missing or > mangled pages. > > The outrage comes up when you attempt to get the problem fixed, and run > into the "too bad, so sad" attitude. > > IMHO, the product should perform as per the published docs at the time of > sale. > I've been on both sides of that one too, so I know what it's like to have > to recall 10,000 units and change EPROMS. > > >I don't see anyone complaining that Microsoft keeps releasing all their > new > >operating systems which have known bugs built in. > > Hopefully not, this is the wrong forum for that sort of problem. > > > Yes, it has some bugs, but nothing I can't live with. > > Speak for yourself. Others aren't in that situation. > > >Yes, there are plenty of > >improvements that could be added to this radio, but us cheap guys, which > >includes the majority of the ham community, would not want to pay for it. > > Again, speak for yourself. I would cheerfully pay for enhancements and > upgrades, but asking me to pay to have code fixed that was supposed to be > working when I bought the radio is a bit over the top. > > The average APRS user is not a cheap guy. I'd guess the minimum investment > at this point (all new gear) is about $500 to put a TH-D7 and GPS on the > air. My APRS investment is many times that, just in new gear purchased, > not counting homebrew or used gear. > > Kenwood has built a couple of excellent radios for us. They also have > bugs. > They knew there would be bugs. If they didn't provide themselves a low > cost > way to fix those bugs, then that's THEIR fault, as are the bugs. > > Given what's available in terms of flash and EEPROM, there's no excuse for > having a product that can't have it's firmware reloaded in the field, > without the risk of turning it into a brick with a bad load. (The loader > code should be permanent memory of course) > > My products work that way, and have been for the last 10 years, and I > don't > have a fraction of the resources that Kenwood does. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use > > iQA/AwUBON/P84FlGDz1l6VWEQJccwCfW5qGe7m/onXFOf0L8fXl2Z1uTyoAn1Dp > HWussdAxpn6GzGzLjvKQ/ygz > =uD0G > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tomb@kiva.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 14:18:45 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA25200 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:18:44 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:51:08 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A antenna In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.0.1.20000327145021.039d2390@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 12:53 PM 3/27/00 +0000, John Shinall wrote: >Is there a replacement antenna available for the THD7A that works and does >not require an adapter. The OEM antenna seems to be little more than a >dummy load. (The comment is not intended to be Kenwood bashing.) The comet SMA whip is what I've been using for the last couple years. About 8x the gain (3x the range) of the standard helical dummy load. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBON/l3IFlGDz1l6VWEQK/PACgp5BrI5fGjvAfEkMmE3+ry1G9mHMAn003 VJS7foSzPkDRX1iUixtAflWD =Ywkx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 14:19:28 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA25222 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:19:24 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:53:18 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A Kenwood Bashing Cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS In-Reply-To: References: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.0.1.20000327145124.03727e00@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 01:55 PM 3/27/00 -0500, Bob Bruninga wrote: >On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, David VanHorn wrote: > >> Again, speak for yourself. I would cheerfully pay for enhancements and >> upgrades, but asking me to pay to have code fixed that was supposed to be >> working when I bought the radio is a bit over the top. > >I dont think KISS mode was ever marketed as a feature of the THD7. IN >fact, I dont think any version of APRS supported KISS mode back when the >THD7 was announced. I was speaking in the general case, not to any specific issue. However, if the manual says it will do kiss, then I expect that to work. If I buy a car, and there's an accessory I wasn't aware of at purchase, which does not work, I'm entitled to get it fixed, no? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBON/mXoFlGDz1l6VWEQK2BQCgvX+aXUDJXJ37dj+VZXJse6jTOMIAoJ1w 1/9eiwSeVS8Y+mRg8UKLlhNx =UAsj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 14:21:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA25306 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:21:55 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:54:31 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A question. / deviation In-Reply-To: References: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.0.1.20000327145339.03750100@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >Interesting that your deviation was too low. Mine is a little too >high. Almost 4 kHz on 1200 baud packet. Does anybody know if it's >adjustable? I'd like to try to see how much better the D7 works at 3 >kHz. My mobile worked a lot better when I cranked it back to 3 kHz. 3k is about what I've settled on here too. It's definitely a case where 10% too much is lots worse than 10% too little. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBON/mp4FlGDz1l6VWEQK3TwCg9N0TJi+QeLBNAR7ZoOUOjQGrtEoAn2S5 UHkpVZ8sOKV7iQ2a6f7V4uXG =j681 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 14:25:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA25447 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:25:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:24:23 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Arndt To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A Kenwood Bashing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I've been thinking about this. I wonder if one reason might not be type acceptance. Any radio that could be flashed by the owner has the potential (however remote) to have the image reverse engineered, and then changed to make the radio function in non-approved ways. OTOH, this could make being a radio manufacturer really easy. Just stock unprogrammed chassises in different bands, and squirt in an image for what ever the customer wants to buy. I bet a single model could easily handle 2m, high band, and marine band... On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Busch Thomas H CNIN wrote: > Actually, I think providing for flash upgrade should be something that > Kenwood (and their competitors) should pay attention to. It partially > solves the catch that Kenwood is in for fixing bugs without having to deal > with massive product returns. You will never fix all bugs in a particular > product, but at least with flash you can provide an easy upgrade path, as > long as you have engineers to support it. > > Just too late for D7 and D700. > > TomB > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David VanHorn [SMTP:dvanhorn@cedar.net] > > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 4:18 PM > > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > > Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A Kenwood Bashing > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > At 09:46 AM 3/27/00 -0800, Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC wrote: > > >I see several people are complaining about releasing products with > > firmware > > >that is not perfect and they get very upset about it. > > > > What I see is people getting upset because there are bugs that weren't > > known before purchase, and the manufacturer expresses no intention to > > correct them. > > I don't see the fact that there are bugs, per se, as the problem. > > > > If you buy a book and then discover that some of the pages are missing, > > would you not expect a replacement? You have every right to expect that > > this book will contain all the appropriate pages, and not have missing or > > mangled pages. > > > > The outrage comes up when you attempt to get the problem fixed, and run > > into the "too bad, so sad" attitude. > > > > IMHO, the product should perform as per the published docs at the time of > > sale. > > I've been on both sides of that one too, so I know what it's like to have > > to recall 10,000 units and change EPROMS. > > > > >I don't see anyone complaining that Microsoft keeps releasing all their > > new > > >operating systems which have known bugs built in. > > > > Hopefully not, this is the wrong forum for that sort of problem. > > > > > Yes, it has some bugs, but nothing I can't live with. > > > > Speak for yourself. Others aren't in that situation. > > > > >Yes, there are plenty of > > >improvements that could be added to this radio, but us cheap guys, which > > >includes the majority of the ham community, would not want to pay for it. > > > > Again, speak for yourself. I would cheerfully pay for enhancements and > > upgrades, but asking me to pay to have code fixed that was supposed to be > > working when I bought the radio is a bit over the top. > > > > The average APRS user is not a cheap guy. I'd guess the minimum investment > > at this point (all new gear) is about $500 to put a TH-D7 and GPS on the > > air. My APRS investment is many times that, just in new gear purchased, > > not counting homebrew or used gear. > > > > Kenwood has built a couple of excellent radios for us. They also have > > bugs. > > They knew there would be bugs. If they didn't provide themselves a low > > cost > > way to fix those bugs, then that's THEIR fault, as are the bugs. > > > > Given what's available in terms of flash and EEPROM, there's no excuse for > > having a product that can't have it's firmware reloaded in the field, > > without the risk of turning it into a brick with a bad load. (The loader > > code should be permanent memory of course) > > > > My products work that way, and have been for the last 10 years, and I > > don't > > have a fraction of the resources that Kenwood does. > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use > > > > iQA/AwUBON/P84FlGDz1l6VWEQJccwCfW5qGe7m/onXFOf0L8fXl2Z1uTyoAn1Dp > > HWussdAxpn6GzGzLjvKQ/ygz > > =uD0G > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tomb@kiva.net > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: carndt@slonet.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 14:36:01 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA25724 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:36:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:35:10 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A Kenwood Bashing Cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS In-Reply-To: References: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.0.1.20000327153407.03988dc0@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 12:24 PM 3/27/00 -0800, Chris Arndt wrote: >I've been thinking about this. I wonder if one reason might not be type >acceptance. Any radio that could be flashed by the owner has the potential >(however remote) to have the image reverse engineered, and then changed to >make the radio function in non-approved ways. Then they need to make the compliance parts part of the permanent or "factory only" set. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBON/wLoFlGDz1l6VWEQJu9wCg1JuiPL0q3bD00qZolWejjOn+KtYAoOIA y6B32Nxwl738aiexWAzpd/OM =pMFJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 15:07:52 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA27008 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:07:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:06:58 -0600 From: Skip Allison X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A question. / deviation References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38DFCD72.A2797EE0@email.mot.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk David VanHorn wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > >Interesting that your deviation was too low. Mine is a little too > >high. Almost 4 kHz on 1200 baud packet. Does anybody know if it's > >adjustable? I'd like to try to see how much better the D7 works at 3 > >kHz. My mobile worked a lot better when I cranked it back to 3 kHz. > > 3k is about what I've settled on here too. > It's definitely a case where 10% too much is lots worse than 10% too little. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use > > iQA/AwUBON/mp4FlGDz1l6VWEQK3TwCg9N0TJi+QeLBNAR7ZoOUOjQGrtEoAn2S5 > UHkpVZ8sOKV7iQ2a6f7V4uXG > =j681 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > But is it adjustable? How? Skip --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 15:42:18 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA28710 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:42:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:41:49 Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A antenna To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "John Shinall" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Which specific Comet SMA antenna have you been using? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 16:01:53 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA29399 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:01:48 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:59:56 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A antenna In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.0.1.20000327165900.037417a0@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 03:41 PM 3/27/00 +0000, John Shinall wrote: >Which specific Comet SMA antenna have you been using? It's a long dual band whip, but I don't know the specific model number. It's been a while, and there's not enough room on the antenna for a part number. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOOAEDIFlGDz1l6VWEQJmIQCfZv82IN3gZdZPn4gaknvCvpMdVh4AoOMO F8hJ9KYutFw6DiE5dECMvWPj =ofyy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 16:12:57 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA29764 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:12:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:12:16 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Arndt To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A antenna In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The 3" MH209SMA mostly. I carry the SMA24 in the fanny pack for those times I need a little extra gain. On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, John Shinall wrote: > Which specific Comet SMA antenna have you been using? > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: carndt@slonet.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 18:36:17 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA03746 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:36:15 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: rparry@jittlov.qualcomm.com Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:35:55 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Richard Parry Subject: [htaprs] Monitoring the PACSATS on the D700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000327162931.00b5c340@jittlov.qualcomm.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I want to listen (watch) pacsat packets on my mobile D700. I believe the only way I can do that is by connecting a laptop to the RS232 port, and watch the packets on the laptop screen, right? I wonder if there is something I am missing. Is there a "screen" of the D700 that I can use that will show me the raw packet data of a PACSAT? thanks in advance, Rich Parry, W9IF --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 21:08:46 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA08381 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:08:46 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:05:16 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/27/00 11:26 AM, Brian Badger at Brian.Badger@wcom.com wrote: > Jon Ogden wrote: > >> on 3/26/00 11:10 PM, Dale Blanchard at bolero@accessnv.com wrote: >> >>> I was going into AES Tue and get a THD7A. I have now changed my mind. Also >>> thinking about a D-700, but now I may be not buying any Kenwood products. >>> >> Oh, don't let that stop you. Even with the relatively poor support on >> upgrades to the TH-D7A, it is still a GREAT product. >> > > I disagree. I think the D7A is an incredibly innovative product, with > features unlike any ever seen. For what it does, there is no competition. > But it's not "GREAT". It has so many bugs and design flaws, it's barely > usable. Kenwood, at the least, needs to keep customers happy by offering a > $50 or $75 firmware upgrade path. To fix the insufferable "buttons gone dead > because of incoming APRS traffic" bug I'd easily drop $50. As it is, it is > either a tracker, or a handheld transceiver, but never both. Funny, I keep hearing about this "bug" and I have had my D7 for over a year now (it was one of the first few regular production models with the, then, "new" firmware) and it has been used in some fairly heavy APRS traffic areas in NJ as well as up here on my mountain where I can copy Montreal on the D7 and I have yet to see it happen. > Will this adversely affect my decision to buy Kenwood products in the future? > Absolutely. Will I let you pry it from my fingers? Never! You have about the same chance of getting my D7 or my D700 from me. And I plan to pick up another D7 next time someone has a a good sale ( I have been hearing prices under $400 already) 73 de, brian, ka2bqe -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "He's not dead -- He's electroencephalographically challenged." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 21:12:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA08550 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:12:38 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:11:53 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Monitoring the PACSATS on the D700 From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 3/27/00 7:35 PM, Richard Parry at rparry@qualcomm.com wrote: > I want to listen (watch) pacsat packets on my mobile D700. I believe the > only way I can do that is by connecting a laptop to the RS232 port, and > watch the packets on the laptop screen, right? I wonder if there is > something I am missing. Is there a "screen" of the D700 that I can use that > will show me the raw packet data of a PACSAT? > > thanks in advance, > Rich Parry, W9IF > In the same menu that has LIST MSG et al. is P.Mon - that will let you monitor raw packets and if you hit HOLD you can scroll back up to 10 screens. 73 de brian, ka2bqe -- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For my PGP Keys "...error reading WinOS. (A)bort, (R)etry, (M)acintosh?" --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 22:07:09 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA10389 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:07:08 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:04:49 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Monitoring the PACSATS on the D700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Richard Parry wrote: > I want to listen (watch) pacsat packets on my mobile D700. I believe the > only way I can do that is by connecting a laptop to the RS232 port, and > watch the packets on the laptop screen, right? I wonder if there is > something I am missing. Is there a "screen" of the D700 that I can use that > will show me the raw packet data of a PACSAT? Sure, just put it in APRS mode and set it to 9600 baud. Then tune in any of the 5 9600 baud satellites. Tune for doppler and best sounding "ssSsSsS" sound and tthen hit P.MON You will see all the UI packets on the screen. (and FAST!) ANother thing you can do is set your APRS Message Gropup to a wildcard of "*" and then any packet that just happens to look like an APRS message packet will be captured as a message. There is one particular Telemetry packet that will get captured this way about once every 20 seconds or so.. FInally, come join us on the APRSSAT SIG and find out more... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Mar 27 22:55:53 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA11642 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:55:45 -0600 (CST) Date: 28 Mar 2000 04:56:02 GMT From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: PubSafety Mobile Data Terminals Message-ID: X-Magic-Cap-Form: memo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <70DEF65B9F4006D2> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id WAA11642 Due to the volume of requests for the vendor's contact info, I'll post it again here: Twin City Surplus 1675 E. Fourth St. Reno, NV 89512 1-888-323-5630. I was mistaken in some statements as Mark Fellhauer pointed out. It outputs in FSK. I misread the manufacturer's info page. The rf modem they are marketing turns out to be required to bridge their latest laptop based MDT and their data radios. The MDT-870 terminal apparently has an internal FSK modem. Maybe there is some way to wire in a TAPR modem disconnect header and plug in a modem that would be compatible with ham packet networking. The radio lead is a 25 pin d-sub connecter, so if you had a pair or a small group wanted to network them, I think it would not be hard to get this plugged into the data in port on data ready radios like the Alinco mobiles, etc. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 28 03:15:04 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id DAA26043 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 03:14:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:11:20 +0100 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Roger Barker Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A Kenwood Bashing References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In article , Bob Bruninga writes >On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, David VanHorn wrote: > >> Again, speak for yourself. I would cheerfully pay for enhancements and >> upgrades, but asking me to pay to have code fixed that was supposed to be >> working when I bought the radio is a bit over the top. > >I dont think KISS mode was ever marketed as a feature of the THD7. Surely the point is that, if the TH-D7 has a KISS command available, it should work? Although how important that is probably depends on which side of "the pond" you live on. I get the impression that KISS not working is not at all important for the USA market. When I first got hold of a TH-D7, and found that KISS didn't work, I read all the various reviews of the rig that had been published in the USA, and couldn't even find the word KISS! In Europe it is much more important, because there is a wide range of excellent packet software that uses KISS, and also hams buy the rig to use for packet purposes other than APRS. >IN fact, I dont think any version of APRS supported KISS mode back when >the THD7 was announced. What is the relevance of whether APRS supports KISS to the fact that KISS in the TH-D7's internal TNC is broken? Or are you saying that Kenwood regard the functionality of the TH-D7's internal TNC as only being good for APRS use? If that is the case, then their marketing of the rig over here has certainly never given that impression. No, I'm not Kenwood bashing! The TH-D7 is a superb, innovative rig. However, it has a very obvious fault and the best solution would be for the manufacturer to fix that fault free of charge, learn from the experience, and move on from there. One thing they could perhaps learn would be to get similar rigs tested by users who are going to subject them to a wider range of packet use than just APRS, *if* they regard the TNC in the rig as being suitable for a wider range of use... -- Roger Barker, G4IDE - roger@peaksys.co.uk For UI-View goto to - http://www.packetradio.org.uk For WinPack goto to - http://www.peaksys.co.uk --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 28 07:20:58 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA11127 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 07:20:55 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:20:29 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I just picked up a brand new D7, and it has no beep mine feature; too bad! Rich Carter - KE1EV -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Tim Russell Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 10:25 AM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] THD7A question. > From: Robbie Robertson > Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:21:46 -0600 > Hi Dale, > > I have one of each and there is no way I would let the > "kiss mode" effect my decision to buy or not to buy.. > IS that the only way you can run your applications? Two things: 1) It's not the fact that it doesn't do KISS, it's the fact that the D7 still has confirmed bugs, but Kenwood has essentially orphaned the early-adopters who have made it a successful product. If the newer units are coming with firmware that isn't available to current users, I'll be DOUBLY upset. Awhile back I heard rumors that new units had a BEEP MINE setting, which is the only way the beep function is useful to me, and if that's true and I can't get an upgrade, I'm not happy at all. 2) KISS mode is very useful - it gets around a lot of the compatibility problems with different TNCs and puts control over communications in the hands of the application program, where it belongs. Frankly, I'm surprised that APRS wasn't designed KISS-only from day one. I need KISS for things like Linux packet networking. Basically, I don't appreciate paying upwards of $400 for a product that has buggy firmware and then not being able to get those bugs fixed. Can you imagine the uproar if Palm had a policy like this for the Pilot? 73, Tim, K0RUS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rcarter@isi.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 28 09:21:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA14596 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:21:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Tim Cunningham" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A Kenwood Bashing Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:20:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <009501bf98c9$2a1b1690$2d86aec7@cunninghamt.genrad.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >I get the impression that KISS not working is not at all important for >the USA market. When I first got hold of a TH-D7, and found that KISS >didn't work, I read all the various reviews of the rig that had been >published in the USA, and couldn't even find the word KISS! That might be true if you do not want to work the Amateur Radio Satellites. Most of the packet programs for satellite communications use the KISS mode. In fact, there are several other packages that require the KISS mode right here in the USA. So, it really depends on how you want to use the Kenwood. I think of it as a portable radio and not a digipeater or a digital node so the only place I am going to use KISS is on the satellites. KISS would be nice to have on the road since I am an active Amateur Radio Satellite enthusiast. However, to successfully uplink and downlink at 9600 baud on these satellites the radio and TNC must work in full duplex mode. The TH-D7A does not do this when the TNC is activated. It would be nice, but that was not the total reason I purchased a TH-D7A. If it had full duplex operation with the TNC and the radio simulataneously, it would take a very big crow bar to pry this little baby from my hands and you would not succeed. The TH-D7A will not work APRS in the 9600 baud mode as a stand alone unit, nor can you set the unit to 9600 baud without a computer or some other devce to send the proper commands to configure it in the 9600 baud mode. This was a disappointment, but it was not the total reason why I purchased a TH-D7A. I have heard about some possibe changes in this area, but I have not seen it. I purchased a TH-D7A for 1200 baud APRS work and to have a nice dual-band HT. It works quite well in that respect. It is still an excellent radio with a built-in TNC. Considering that Kenwood is leading this area at the moment, I have heard very little from the other suppliers in the Amateur Radio world who are moving in this direction. If they are doing so, they have not made it known to the general population. Would I give up my TH-D7A. NO! Even despite the fact that t locks up every once in a while under heavy APRS reception. Just take it to the Dayton Hamfest, leave it on an APRS frequency, and you will see what I mean. It can be annoying, but I do not walk around the Dayton hamfest every day either. >No, I'm not Kenwood bashing! The TH-D7 is a superb, innovative rig. >However, it has a very obvious fault and the best solution would be for >the manufacturer to fix that fault free of charge, learn from the Yes, it is a superb unit. I worked several stations via UO-14 and SO-35 in the FM voice mode using a rubber duck on the unit for an out of this world experience. Connect an ARROW dual band handheld beam and you have a big rig station for satellite use. Technology changes and the prices change along with it. I got my TH-7DA for $439.00 over a year ago. Then, I went to Dayton and some of the other hamfests and found them for less than what I paid with added extras like extra battery packs and external microphones. I did not get these free with mine and felt a little deprived, but we live in a world of competition and changing technology. When you purchase a computer, you know it will be old technology in six months and the operating system will be replaced every 2 years with something better or at least it should be better. Do you expect the supplier to upgrade your software for free every time a new feature or bug gets fixed? Granted some software suppliers fix bugs and Kenwood also fixed some issues with the earlier units like mine. Did they have to? No, but the fact that they did was great! Kenwood: When you come out with an upgraded TH-D7A with the following additions, I will buy it: 1. Full duplex TNC and radio. 2. Field upgradeable FLASH memory by the user. 3. APRS functions working with 9600 baud like the 1200 baud mode, so I can use it on the satellites with 9600 baud APRS beacons. 4. Memory for my own canned messages that can be selected and sent from the HT without having to type them on the pad. 5. KISS mode. I thought it worked, but I have not tried it yet because it does me no good without the full duplex TNC and radio setting. 73's Tim - N8DEU Huntsville, Alabama --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 28 09:49:13 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA15443 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:49:11 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: jjeffers@deskmedia.com Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:45:23 -0600 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: James Jefferson Subject: [htaprs] What is wrong with D7A KISS mode? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000328093956.00c7cf00@deskmedia.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Nobody answered my question, What is wrong with the KISS mode? I have successfully used my year old unit with the Linux AX.25 utilities, under kiss mode. The entire reason I bought the radio was because I saw Bob receiving the PACSAT's in KISS mode at DCC in Chicago. -James Jefferson KB0THN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 28 10:37:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA17290 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:37:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:37:06 -0700 From: Brian Badger Subject: [htaprs] Re: What is wrong with D7A KISS mode? Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38E0DFB1.889CBC09@wcom.com> Precedence: bulk James, You can receive, but can you transmit? -- Brian James Jefferson wrote: What is wrong with the KISS mode? I have successfully used my year old unit with the Linux AX.25 utilities, under kiss mode. The entire reason I bought the radio was because I saw Bob receiving the PACSAT's in KISS mode at DCC in Chicago. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 28 10:49:00 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA17568 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:48:55 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:47:52 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: What is wrong with D7A KISS mode? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, James Jefferson wrote: > Nobody answered my question, > What is wrong with the KISS mode? I have successfully used my year old unit > with the Linux AX.25 utilities, under kiss mode. > > The entire reason I bought the radio was because I saw Bob receiving the > PACSAT's in KISS mode at DCC in Chicago. Sorry if you were misslead. I never operated the radio in KISS mode and always stressed that I was operating it in normal packet receive only mode. The radio CANNOT OPERATE CROSSBAND TNC. THis was stressed at DCC more than 3 months before the radio was announced. So even if it had a KISS mode, it would be useless for trying to do PACSAT-PROTOCOL with the pacsats. I always demonstrated how it could receive all BEACON, STATUS, TELEMETRY, PBLIST, LSTAT, and all the OTHER pacsat UI packets in normal packet mode. THese occur many times a second. ALso these UI packets are what we anticipate will be very useful for Space Applications of APRS. RIght now there are 5 sats you can copy these packets from: UO22, KO23, KO25, TO31 and SUNSAT. You will see several of these UI packets per second from the PACSATS . We also expect in the near future for one of these satelites to have DIGI enabled for mobile-to-mobile APRS communications using the front panel of the D700 radio. The THD7 in this regard can be used with any version of APRS to monitor the downlink and see everyone. The D700 will not need a laptop, since it can communicate 9600 baud APRS from the front panel. The existing THD7 will need the laptop. In summary, the radio cannnot operate crossband TNC, so the point about KISS was moot for PACSAT operations from the git-go... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 28 13:32:48 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA23821 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:32:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:43:27 -0500 (EST) From: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A Kenwood Bashing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I think that you folks have hit the nail right on the head! Looks like the FCC is taking up this very issue. http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/News_Releases/2000/nret0004.html Dave Williams NN2D On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, David VanHorn wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > At 12:24 PM 3/27/00 -0800, Chris Arndt wrote: > >I've been thinking about this. I wonder if one reason might not be type > >acceptance. Any radio that could be flashed by the owner has the potential > >(however remote) to have the image reverse engineered, and then changed to > >make the radio function in non-approved ways. > > Then they need to make the compliance parts part of the permanent or > "factory only" set. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use > > iQA/AwUBON/wLoFlGDz1l6VWEQJu9wCg1JuiPL0q3bD00qZolWejjOn+KtYAoOIA > y6B32Nxwl738aiexWAzpd/OM > =pMFJ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: dwilliams@csmail.law.pace.edu > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Mar 28 13:59:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA24649 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:59:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:48:42 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7A Kenwood Bashing Cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS In-Reply-To: References: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.0.1.20000328144609.038b2e10@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 02:43 PM 3/28/00 -0500, dwilliams@csmail.law.pace.edu wrote: >I think that you folks have hit the nail right on the head! > >Looks like the FCC is taking up this very issue. I won't claim any mystic insight, it's the same approach I've employed since '83 for compliance with telco regulations in multiple countries. The customer-accessable variables are never allowed to go out of compliance range. This dosen't preclude them from using the same chassis into different markets, they just need to make the compliance block more difficult to change, and leave the rest open to casual reload. The part that does the loading should always be in permanent memory, and you always look for the "magic handshake" on powerup to see if there's a new load coming. (Shades of the agrelo foxhunt transmitter firmware. Too bad the product went down with the ship.) It's frustrating that KW is so good at the other aspects of the design, and left this end hanging so badly. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOOE2yoFlGDz1l6VWEQIp4wCgulmmBzGT/521j3JqqbUczfDSkrsAoKo5 oBEzgwrZCxB8EuMLQpt8FZXo =Jx03 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 29 14:51:37 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA28052 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:51:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Peter ZR5DWC" From: "Peter ZR5DWC" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] pk232 as a digi? Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:51:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF99D1.5EC44980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000c01bf99c0$b43e1000$0a6f6fc0@zr5dwc> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF99D1.5EC44980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All=20 Any one know of how to set a PK232 up as a digi? I wish to get one up as = a digi for our APRS network here in South Africa.=20 Many thanks=20 Peter Black=20 The D700 arives tomorow! (I hope!) ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF99D1.5EC44980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All
 
Any one know of how to set a PK232 up = as a digi? I=20 wish to get one up as a digi for our APRS network here in South Africa.=20
 
Many thanks
 
Peter Black
 
The D700 arives tomorow! (I = hope!)
 
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF99D1.5EC44980-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 29 14:55:38 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA28126 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:55:37 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:50:50 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Need help D700 From: "Dennis Hudson, N2LBT" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The key combo should be (F)(1S)(TNC). The TNC button should appear as the 4th button on the left side.(bottom) This is a toggle to the 3 modes for the TNC. Mode 1-No TNC Functions(serial port still functions for radio control) Mode 2-APRS TNC The APRS indicator on the lcd will come on. APRS functions are controlled by the internal processor using the settings you put in the APRS and TNC sub menus. ie: call, status, tx rate, gps ect. Mode 3-TNC mode. This functions as a TNC-2 clone for use with Mac/Win/Dos/Palm ect APRS. GPS data will be allowed as a "GPS on second serial port" option in most APRS versions under the D7 TNC. Some settings are controllable by the panel. ie baud rate. As of yet I do not know of any APRS versions that function with the D700 while it is in APRS mode. It is something that I would like to work on if I had the time and more programming experience. This would really be an ideal situation, a semi passive software package that could display maps and give better message input ability while stationary. It could possibly be easy to do, I have to do more research. I am getting pretty good inputting messages into the D700 with the mic without really looking. But a terminal would be nice for public service work, or waiting for the YL in the parking lot. Is anyone working on this at the moment? I could see using an I-opener with a touch screen as a real nice MDT for APRS. Dennis, N2LBT > > Finally got my D700 hooked up and am playing with it to > learn how > it works but I have one problem I cannot seem to figure out > and > that is how to get it in APRS mode. > > It states to press (F)(1s) This should enter it into TNC > APRS mode > and display this on the display (Right or Wrong)??? > > -- > Bill Nolle > wa8inz@earthlink.net > wa8inz@amsat.org > ---------------------------- > Porta Digi site is back at: > http://home.earthlink.net/~wa8inz --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 29 15:26:48 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA29069 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:26:42 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: kd7nm/mail.ricochet.net@127.0.0.1 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:26:05 -0800 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Robert Donnell Subject: [htaprs] Re: pk232 as a digi? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000329132605.00807cb0@127.0.0.1> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 10:51 PM 3/29/00 +0200, Peter ZR5DWC wrote: >>>> ArialHi All ArialAny one know of how to set a PK232 up as a digi? I wish to get one up as a digi for our APRS network here in South Africa. ArialMany thanks ArialPeter Black Set the command DIGIPEAT to ON Assuming you want the digipeater to act as a RELAY digipeater, set MYALIAS to RELAY. Assuming it's otherwise set up for local packet operation, you're done. 73 and have fun Bob ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Donnell, KD7NM kd7nm@ricochet.net Western Washington Amateur IP Address Coordinator (425) 775-3651 --------------------- http://wetnet.wa.com/~kd7nm --------------------- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Mar 29 21:50:09 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA11036 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:50:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:49:31 Subject: [htaprs] GPS Baud rate To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Morris Hays" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >From the Kenwood TH-D7a instructional manual: Commands supported by the built-in TNC: GBAUD GB 4800/9600 Selects 4800 or 9600 bps as the transfer rate between the TNC and the GPS receiver. The TH-D7a Manual Addendum for GPS connection simply states to put the Garmin GPS receiver in NMEA 4800, which is simple enough. But as the manual states there are settings of 4800 and 9600 within the TH-D7a, does it auto select (not likely if there is a program to change it) or default to 4800 on startup? Without a PC how can I tell that the setting is at 4800 or change it if it isn’t? Wondering if there is a selection why doesn't it show up in the TH-D7a regular menus? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 30 05:57:21 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id FAA09914 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:57:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 5:56:44 Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Need help D700 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Fred Hatfield" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk On 03/29/00, ""Dennis Hudson, N2LBT" " wrote: > > Mode 3-TNC mode. This functions as a TNC-2 clone for use with > Mac/Win/Dos/Palm ect APRS. GPS data will be allowed as a "GPS on second > serial port" option in most APRS versions under the D7 TNC. Some settings > are controllable by the panel. ie baud rate. > This seems to be the mode to use with APRStk. But when I set the B side to "Data" for receiving satellites, then all I/O goes through that side. The first satellite pass causes the B side to switch to 9600 baud and it remains there even after the satellite passes and the B side goes to 144.39. Of course, this kills the APRS copying mode of the program unless I use O-C-T and set the hbaud back to 1200 by hand. But then the next sat pass will cause it to be stuck at 9600 again. I don't understand what part the A side plays in APRStk -- once the B side is set up as the data receiver, the A side seems to play no part in the program. Fred K8VDU New Orleans --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 30 09:44:08 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA16788 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:44:06 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:43:17 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Need help D700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Fred Hatfield wrote: > This seems to be the mode to use with APRStk. But when I set > the B side to "Data" for receiving satellites, then all I/O goes > through that side. The first satellite pass causes the B side > to switch to 9600 baud and it remains there even after the satellite > passes and the B side goes to 144.39. Of course, this kills > the APRS copying mode of the program unless I use O-C-T and > set the hbaud back to 1200 by hand. But then the next sat > pass will cause it to be stuck at 9600 again. This is a known bug when using the D700 with APRStk. (ill fix it when I get mine hooked up). But it should not be a problem with the D7. My D7 qsys back and forth and changes the HB rate too... The SUBJ line of the message says D700, but the original post was tlaking aobut a D7... can you confirm.. Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 30 10:20:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA18172 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:19:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:19:26 Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Need help D700 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Fred Hatfield" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk On 03/30/00, "Bob Bruninga " wrote: > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Fred Hatfield wrote: > > > This seems to be the mode to use with APRStk. But when I set > > the B side to "Data" for receiving satellites, then all I/O goes > > through that side. The first satellite pass causes the B side > > to switch to 9600 baud and it remains there even after the satellite > > passes and the B side goes to 144.39. Of course, this kills > > the APRS copying mode of the program unless I use O-C-T and > > set the hbaud back to 1200 by hand. But then the next sat > > pass will cause it to be stuck at 9600 again. > > This is a known bug when using the D700 with APRStk. (ill fix it when I > get mine hooked up). But it should not be a problem with the D7. My D7 > qsys back and forth and changes the HB rate too... > The SUBJ line of the message says D700, but the original post was tlaking > aobut a D7... can you confirm.. > > Bob Yes, I was writing about the D700 although the original message was about the D7. The procedure for setting the TNC caught my eye and I realized it was the same for the D700. Is it correct for the B channel to be doing all the work for APRStk after it is set for DATA mode? I can see 144.39 packets being copied on both A and B but the computer only sees the B channel (which has the 9600 'bug'). This is an exciting system and I am anxious to copy some satellite transmissions. I get information on the List-Users page relating to the satellites but I don't get any packets on the List-Telemetry page. Fred K8VDU New Orleans --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 30 11:45:42 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA21571 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:45:37 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:44:42 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Need help D700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Fred Hatfield wrote: > > > This seems to be the mode to use with APRStk.... > Is it correct for the B channel to be doing all the work... Yes. Only scratching the surface of the potential here, but it's a start. > This is an exciting system and I am anxious to copy some satellite > transmissions. I get information on the List-Users page relating to > the satellites but I don't get any packets on the List-Telemetry page. Yes, LIST-TELEMETRY is for "APRS" formatted TELEMETRY. Until yesterday none of the pacsats used that mode...(can say no more for now... grin) Hit LIST-PACSATS and that is where you will see the HEX telemetry from the PACSATS... Hit LIST-USERS to see who was using the bird... Hit BULLETINS to see if any of the satellites are sending APRS bulletins Stay tuned over the next few weeks for exciting new developments... Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 30 15:25:54 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA28523 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:25:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Peter ZR5DWC" From: "Peter ZR5DWC" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] SUNSAT PASSES Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:27:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01BF9A9F.73816280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004601bf9a8e$b2d06aa0$0a6f6fc0@zr5dwc> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BF9A9F.73816280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All here are the passes for sunsat. It is in mode B ie: uhf up vhf = down=20 145.825 436.290 South America: 29 March 00:07 31 March 23:46 2 April 11:25 5 April 00:25 5 April 23:44 6 April 23:05 8 April 12:26 9 April 11:46 USA: 28 March 03:52 29 March 03:12 30 March 02:32 31 March 03:31 1 April 14:03 2 April 13:25 5 April 03:30 6 April 02:50 7 April 02:09 8 April 14:22 9 April 13:42 Morning passes will probably be changed to evening passes as the=20 orbit changes, as morning passes become too early. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BF9A9F.73816280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All here are the passes for sunsat. = It is in=20 mode B ie: uhf up vhf down
 
145.825
436.290
 
South America:

29 March = 00:07
31=20 March 23:46
2 April 11:25
5 April 00:25
5 April = 23:44
6=20 April 23:05
8 April 12:26
9 April = 11:46


USA:

28=20 March 03:52
29 March 03:12
30 March 02:32
31 March = 03:31
1=20 April 14:03
2 April 13:25
5 April 03:30
6 April = 02:50
7=20 April 02:09
8 April 14:22
9 April 13:42

Morning = passes=20 will probably be changed to evening passes as the
orbit changes, as = morning=20 passes become too early.

------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BF9A9F.73816280-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 30 17:01:21 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA01969 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:01:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Karl G6ODT" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Programming cmds for Memorys for D700 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:56:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003501bf9a9b$3d868e20$e08e01d5@amd450> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi , As I dig deeper while developing my D700 control software I'm looking for some more infomation. When switching the radio to memory mode does anybody know how to get the radio to report which memory channel it is now using ? I know how to get the name assigned to a memory channel but first I need to know which memory the radio is using. Also still looking for a cmd to send to the radio to make it thing the OK button has been pressed or for that matter if there exists a way to emulate any button then it could open a few ideas. All help gratefully received. 73 Karl G6ODT g6odt@yahoo.com http://www.btinternet.com/~g6odt/d700.html http://members.tripod.com/~g6odt/packet.html http://backdoor.to/g6odt 24hr Digi 144.800 Relay,Wide,Irth,G6ODT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Mar 30 17:58:23 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA03572 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:58:23 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:57:07 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] APRStk version K10 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk APRStk does two things. It can serve as an automated APRS and VOICE satellite ground station while automatically tuning the Kenwood radios to satellites in view, or it can serve the wider community by letting one copy run in each major APRS wide area. On 144.39 then, it does these things: 1) Transmits Satellite OBJECTS on 144.39 whenever one of the satellites that are workable from your mobile or HT are in view. There are 7 you can receive and several you can transmit to.. 2) Once every 10 minutes transmits out a DX-SPOT to all THD7 or D700's alerting everyone to any satellites that will come into view in the next 80 miuntes. The beauty of this is that a mobile THD7 or D700 user needs no prior knowledge to work one of these satelites. If he sees UO14 pop up on his radio front panel, it will show the AZIMUTH, DISTANCE and FREQUENCY of the satellite. When it gets closer than say 1000 miles he can work it with his 2m mobile whip. If he has a handheld beam, he can work it at 1500 mi... APRStk version 10 has been posted. It fixes two things: 1) It fixes the bug with the D700 that would not QSY back to 144.39 2) It knows the difference between day and night and will not uplink AO27 at night when it is off. 3) It separates SO35 into a digital and voice bird so that the separate modes can be separately handled. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 31 06:10:01 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA10110 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:10:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 6:9:41 Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Need help D700 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Fred Hatfield" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk On 03/30/00, "Bob Bruninga " wrote: > Hit LIST-PACSATS and that is where you will see the HEX telemetry from > the PACSATS... Finally copied a hex string from a satellite with APRStk! > > Hit LIST-USERS to see who was using the bird... Got that list, too! > Hit BULLETINS to see if any of the satellites are sending APRS bulletins > > Stay tuned over the next few weeks for exciting new developments... I downloaded version 10 of APRStk and looks like it is working great. Switched to 144.39 at 1200 baud like a charm. Just though I'd let you know.... Fred K8VDU New Orleans > Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 31 06:14:54 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA10222 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:14:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 6:14:30 Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRStk version K10 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Fred Hatfield" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk On 03/30/00, "Bob Bruninga " wrote: > > 1) Transmits Satellite OBJECTS on 144.39 whenever one of the satellites > that are workable from your mobile or HT are in view. There are 7 you > can receive and several you can transmit to.. > > 2) Once every 10 minutes transmits out a DX-SPOT to all THD7 or D700's > alerting everyone to any satellites that will come into view in the next > 80 miuntes. > Haven't gotten any verification of this feature yet. I've got version 10 of APRStk running and looks great so far. > The beauty of this is that a mobile THD7 or D700 user needs no prior > knowledge to work one of these satelites. If he sees UO14 pop up on his > radio front panel, it will show the AZIMUTH, DISTANCE and FREQUENCY of the > satellite. When it gets closer than say 1000 miles he can work it with > his 2m mobile whip. If he has a handheld beam, he can work it at 1500 > mi... > > APRStk version 10 has been posted. It fixes two things: > > 1) It fixes the bug with the D700 that would not QSY back to 144.39 Tested this and it works fine. Thanks!! > 2) It knows the difference between day and night and will not uplink > AO27 at night when it is off. > 3) It separates SO35 into a digital and voice bird so that the separate > modes can be separately handled. I will be checking on these later. In the meantime, thanks again for the version 10 update. Fred K8VDU New Orleans > de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 31 15:57:19 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA28083 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:57:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:55:55 -0800 From: Dick Kors X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Good Deal GPS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38E51EEB.5F2C6350@netcom.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I have no connection with these guys, but at lunch today I bought a Mitac MetroGuide Car Navigation System which includes a Mitac GPS, MAPS, RS-232 cable and software all for $50.00 from Software & Stuff in Sunnyvale (www.softwareandstuff.com). They had about 20 units in stock when I was there. Again I have no connection to these guys but it seemed like the best deal I've seen in a long time. Dick, KM6EP --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Mar 31 17:03:25 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA00513 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:03:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: tarnerich@in-situ.com (Tony Arnerich) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Keyboard on a D700 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:00:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01BF9B2A.4EF9F900.tarnerich@in-situ.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This may be just the thing folks have been looking for. Go to http://www.bb-elec.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=80&sku=FA1%2DE to see a device that inserts between a computer and it's keyboard, which has an RS232 port which can talk and listen to either of those two. And you don't even have to have the computer present, it will serve as a keyboard to serial adapter. From their description: . Serial ASCII Keyboard - This maps the AT keyboard keys to a simple ascii character set which are sent to the RS-232/RS-485 port. This can be used to create a simple ASCII RS-232/RS-485 serial keyboard. It can also make monitoring keyboard usage easier. . Serial Keyboard - Convert a keyboard to a serial RS-232 or RS-485 device. This can be used for systems which don't have an AT style keyboard port, but still need a QWERTY style keyboard. Or you can use it to add a serial port to a laptop (for your GPS maybe): . Attaching Input Devices - Connect RS-232 and RS-485 devices to a computer, such as bar code scanners, magnetic card readers and measurement devices. This way no communications ports are needed and the application can read the input just as if it came from the keyboard The functions above are available in the standard version which sells for $99. There is also an EEPROM version ($150) that can do these added things among others: . Store and execute key strings - The Keyat FA1-E can store key strings up to 31 characters in length in non-volatile EEPROM memory. The Keyat FA1-E has memory for 32 strings. These strings can be executed either automatically or with a command. . Chain stored key strings - The Keyat FA1-E can chain together stored key strings, to allow long key sequences. *** And just for grins, look at their WristPC keyboard. Just the ting to get yourself fully wired. 40 keys, all alphas, numerics, and arrow keys; fully sealed; USB interface: http://www.bb-elec.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=97&sku=SA0013 *** I'm not affiliated with B&B Electronics, I'm not even a customer of theirs - yet. 73, Tony KD7CEJ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org